(And I know that at the time of Trent, all I had to do to have my cursing to hell removed was to convert to Catholicism. IOW, "convert or die". Hmmmm. :)
Thanks FK. I should have asked those excellent questions at the time that blather was posted. As my ex-RC husband reminds me, he was taught in parochial school that the anathemas of Trent actually call up the demons from hell to curse those who believe in justification by faith alone and those who believe in the assurance of their redemption by Christ on the cross.
One has to wonder what kind of organization curses someone who believes the words of Christ Himself.
One has to wonder what kind of organization curses someone who believes the words of Christ Himself.
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A nutty cult, of course. They’ve labeled themselves quite accurately. They just didn’t realize that’s what they were doing.
I love these discussions! They get you to go back and actually look at what Scripture says and what history reveals. Under that "always and everywhere believed" banner I've learned a lot of it is just not true, but it's been said so much everyone just thinks it is true.
For example, haven't we all heard "well we gave you the Scriptures". Not true, the Scriptures were recognized very early on and it wasn't until Trent that the RCC actually made an official declaration.
Another example, "we are the church that was founded at Pentecost". Only true if you are including all believers in Jesus Christ. The mono bishophoric system didn't begin to emerge until after the end of the Apostolic Era.
The problem seems to be getting our RC posters to admit that something hasn't been "always and everywhere believed". I'm guessing that admitting their church has not told the truth about something is to hard to come to grips with.