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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; Marysecretary; HarleyD
The Grace of God allows man, with his own free will, to determine whether he goes to hell or not.

That is not grace. That is standing by and smiling while you watch your small child wander into the middle of a busy street to play in traffic

If man has no free will then man doesn't act on his own but on God's will—regardless if he is doing good or evil.

4,391 posted on 03/21/2008 5:17:12 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; Marysecretary; HarleyD

I will try to explain it to you, again.

Man, in his natural state, has the “free will” to sin or not sin. Those are his only choices. He can decide at any point to sin or he can choose to not sin. In other words, a man can decide that another is asking for a punch in the nose. The man can either punch him or not, sin or not sin.

Man, in a regenerated condition (saved) can choose to sin, not sin, or (and this is what is different) this man can choose to please God. In other words, a saved man has more options, is in fact more free than the unsaved person. No one who is unsaved can CHOOSE to please God in any way.


4,399 posted on 03/21/2008 10:22:32 AM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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