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To: Forest Keeper

***17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. ***

If so be that we suffer with him, that we MAY be also glorified...

If you don’t suffer with Him, then you may NOT be glorified together...

Remember the Judgement and those found to be unworthy based upon their deeds who are cast into the abyss created for the devil and all his minions.


3,812 posted on 03/10/2008 8:31:05 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights
***17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. ***

If so be that we suffer with him, that we MAY be also glorified... If you don’t suffer with Him, then you may NOT be glorified together...

I have noticed that with Catholics every Biblical "may" is translated into "might". Obviously that is not the sole use of the word in the Bible, but I understand why it is needed to give man the most control and power. Nevertheless, then, you must think there are Christians who have not suffered for their faiths. I've never met one, nor have I ever heard of one. Have you? Do you believe the Bible teaches that some believers will lead care-free lives without ever being assaulted for their belief in the one True God. If you have never experienced this, then I would suggest that you do some thinking. :)

Remember the Judgment and those found to be unworthy based upon their deeds who are cast into the abyss created for the devil and all his minions.

Sure, sin results in eternal death. That's what the Bible says. Fortunately, God provides a way for His elect to escape that fate. We disagree on whether God could handle it Himself or whether He needed help.

4,012 posted on 03/14/2008 7:13:24 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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