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To: kosta50
[ You deny that Christ died. Christians believe that He is fully human and He suffered and died in His humanity. ]

Nope I said Christ flesh died but not his Spirit.. He did suffer as out spirits do here also.. but we will nor die either.. It has to do with what you mean by die.. Which also has to do with what is life... What is Life.. Kosta?.. Do you know?.. Define life and you can define death.. Science has no idea what life is, even now.. I have/wear flesh but the flesh is not me.. My spirit will get a new body or conduit.. As the gospel tells us.. As Jesus resurrected so can we..

[ So, Christ is simply a spirit who covered Himself with flesh and did not become flesh, fully divine and fully human, unconfused but inseparable, in one Person? ]

Christ had a human body just as we do but we are not basically flesh either.. Flesh is flesh and spirit is spirit..

[ I asked you if you are Christian and you failed to answer. Now I know why. ]

I am not a christian.. What is a chistian, Kosta?.. Come on be bold.. What is a christian?.. I am a sheep.. Not a snarky comment.. I am a metaphorical sheep.. That definition was good enough for Jesus its good enough for me.. I am a sheep called out of the sheep pen(s) I got myself stuck in(John ch 10).. Thank God.. Now I am a member of "THE" flock.. But there are still many sheep in the pen(s).. afraid to come out.. Come on OUT Kosta, what do I have to come in there and drag you out?..

3,788 posted on 03/09/2008 10:31:19 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
Nope I said Christ flesh died but not his Spirit

Christians believe that Christ is fully God and fully Human. That means He also has a human spirit. When Christ died, as a human being, he died and let out His spirit (according to the scriptures). If He didn't die, like the rest of us, and did not resurrect, as you seem to claim, then His death and resurrection are a lie.

I am including my friends here, to call their attention to your denial here, but I also include your friends as well, who call themselves Christian, and who so enthusiastically agree with you, to shed some light on this denial of Christ's death and resurrection.

It has to do with what you mean by die.. Which also has to do with what is life

Is there life in a flatworm? If you say yes, then you know the answer.

Science has no idea what life is, even now.. I have/wear flesh but the flesh is not me

What you are is a sum-total of your experiences and genetic makup, all of which is carnal. You eat what "tastes good." You sleep when you are "tired." You dress up when yo are "cold." You avoid "pain" (or maybe you are one of those who "likes" pain, I don't know!). You drink when you are "thirsty," you read with your "eyes." Everything you do, feel and need, is carnal. You have no proof that there is anything else "living" without substance inside of you.

Tell me, how does one "imprison" (oh Gnosticts!) a spirit in a body? What is a spirit, hosepipe? Is it circumscribed, like the angels, or is it limitless like God? Get real.

I am not a christian..

Well, that's obvious.

What is a chistian, Kosta?..Come on be bold..

Everything you are not. Is that bold enough?

But there are still many sheep in the pen(s).. afraid to come out.. Come on OUT Kosta, what do I have to come in there and drag you out?..

Maybe you (and others who share your views) nee, hosepipe, to come IN, hospeipe, or do we have to come out there and drag you in? Get my drift?

3,806 posted on 03/10/2008 7:21:27 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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