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To: MarkBsnr; irishtenor; kosta50
Read the Catechism closely: Scripture teaches that Truth which God wants us to know via Scripture.

That's OK, I agree with this on its face. I know we disagree on whether there is additional truth that is revealed through men as we move through time, but that's a different matter.

The Holy Spirit allows the Truth to be known, utilizing man’s attempts to write down what God has made known.

I think the Catechism reads stronger than that, but nevertheless, if you'll agree that God's "true truth" is fully revealed in the scriptures, to the extent God desired, then I think we are in agreement. IOW, God fully accomplished His mission to reveal to us in scripture everything He wanted to reveal, without error, and that the Bible is both Holy and God's word.

I see this as a matter of extreme difference with the Orthodox. Or, perhaps only Kosta. :)

3,731 posted on 03/09/2008 2:24:01 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr
I see this as a matter of extreme difference with the Orthodox. Or, perhaps only Kosta

The Orthodox Church holds scriputres to be true but not in the literal sense, and certainly not wihtout possible human omissioins and errors. The Church teaches that the message of the scriptures is preserved pristine, however.

Kosta defers to the Church, and its collective wisdom and knowledge, but Kosta doesn't always agree. :)

3,782 posted on 03/09/2008 8:43:24 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper

***I think the Catechism reads stronger than that, but nevertheless, if you’ll agree that God’s “true truth” is fully revealed in the scriptures, to the extent God desired, then I think we are in agreement.***

The key phrase here is - to the extent God desired - which is neither a claim that everything has been revealed nor that further revelation is disallowed.

Jesus left us His Church - with the authority to carry on His work of bringing the Good News of Salvation to the entire world.


3,810 posted on 03/10/2008 7:59:45 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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