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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; irishtenor
My position remains that the scriptures self-authenticate

Baseless conjecture lackng any objective proof.

When Paul speaks of "his gospel" he is perfectly clear that he is not speaking of some gospel that he made up. No, he is speaking only of that Gospel that was given to him personally by Christ

Makes you wonder why did He choose the eleven others who were on a dead-end mission to the lost sheep of Israel.

It's nice of +Paul to tell us that "his gospel" is what was given to him "personally" by Christ, but it is not what Christ taught when He was walking the earth. I doubt that Christ changed His story.

Again, if Christ needed to get another Apostle in the likes of +Paul, to disseminate the gospel, then He left His work was not finished by His death and Resurrection and His mission was not accomplished. It stands to reason that after Christ nothing can top Him, nothing can be added to His completed work; no new revelations could be made, lest Christ be made imperfect.

I am fine with "inspired", but I like "God-breathed" better. I think that better describes what is actually going on

Same meaning, that is moved, motivated, etc.

3,711 posted on 03/08/2008 10:26:29 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; irishtenor
FK: "When Paul speaks of "his gospel" he is perfectly clear that he is not speaking of some gospel that he made up. No, he is speaking only of that Gospel that was given to him personally by Christ."

Makes you wonder why did He choose the eleven others who were on a dead-end mission to the lost sheep of Israel.

I don't wonder at all since that never happened. That is historical revisionism. For God there is no dead-end mission. Everything accomplishes its purpose. Since the lost sheep of Israel included some Gentiles, there was no dead-end.

It's nice of +Paul to tell us that "his gospel" is what was given to him "personally" by Christ, but it is not what Christ taught when He was walking the earth. I doubt that Christ changed His story.

I don't think Christ changed His story either. :)

FK: "I am fine with "inspired", but I like "God-breathed" better. I think that better describes what is actually going on."

Same meaning, that is moved, motivated, etc.

Oh no, not at all. "God-breathed" is from God's breath, it is FROM Him. You can say that "inspired" merely means a nudge, but you can't say that about God-breathed. That is a PERSONAL reference, God's very breath. Words from HIS mouth, as it were. God breathed life into Adam. Do you say that God nudged Adam to give himself life? :) Big difference.

3,990 posted on 03/14/2008 1:56:51 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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