But that looks like having man determining what the spiritual gifts are since men determine who is to be ordained. I didn't think that was possible. I have said before that if I temporary lost my mind (more than usual) and decided to go on some sort of unchristian and perverse "mission" in order to prove a point, I think I could enter a Catholic seminary and wind up being ordained as a Catholic priest. You could do the same at a Baptist seminary. We could both say whatever we needed to say and jump through whatever hoops were necessary. But then, it appears that under Catholicism I would be given spiritual gifts by (through?) other men and it would all be a fraud. That's why I would think that spiritual gifts can ONLY come from God directly.
You folks might just love these..
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/psalm23.htm
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/index.htm
It's what "apostle" means For reasons best known to Himself God decided to delegate some stuff to human-type personnel. I wouldn't have done it, myself.
Also this is where you have to sort of pore through the catechism and lots of conciliar documents AND/OR read some "ordinals". Loosely speaking the Church tries to "discern" a "call", not issue one. The language is very much, "seeing if you have a call", not "deciding whether or not to ordain you." I suppose it's a matter of trust which one you think it actually is. And the gifts are given by God, just as God acts in every sacrament, according to His promise, we would say. The bishop doesn't make someone a priest, God uses a bishop to make someone a priest.
But where are we on the "class" issue? I don't want to get into another question if we haven't dealt with the prior one
I have observed that
spiritual gifts can still be imparted by the laying on of hands . . .
However, NOT at MAN’s whims.