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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg

“the Creator of every one of us, including the Son and the Spirit.”

Now that is intersting. Please explain how God “created” God?

Nicean Creed

We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, light from light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary
and became truly human.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father [and the Son],
who with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified,

Athanasian Creed

This is what the catholic faith teaches: we worship one God in the Trinity and the Trinity in unity.
Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the substance.
For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Spirit.
But the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit have one divinity, equal glory, and coeternal majesty.
What the Father is, the Son is, and the Holy Spirit is.
The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Spirit is uncreated.

Orthodox

GOD THE FATHER is the fountainhead of the Holy Trinity. The Scriptures reveal the one God is Three Persons — Father, Son, and Holy Spirit — eternally sharing the one divine nature. From the Father the Son is begotten before all ages and all time (Psalm 2:7; II Corinthians 11:31). It is from the Father that the Holy Spirit eternally proceeds (John 15:26). God the Father created all things through the Son, in the Holy Spirit (Genesis 1 and 2; John 1:3; Job 33:4), and we are called to worship Him (John 4:23). The Father loves us and sent His Son to give us everlasting life (John 3:16).


3,568 posted on 03/06/2008 6:11:24 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

(pssst: that’s the reader’s digest version of the Athanasian Creed. The < a href=”http://www.ccel.org/creeds/athanasian.creed.html";>real deal</a> is maybe 5-6 times longer.)


3,586 posted on 03/07/2008 4:47:13 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
Now that is intersting. Please explain how God “created” God?

I didn't phrase is very well. I lumped the Creator and the Source sloppily and I deserve to be "scolded" for this. Please see my response #3,591. The Father is the Source of everything and all, including the divinity. The Son is eternally begotten and the Spirit eternally proceeds from the Father. The Father is the only Person of the Holy trinity Who is without cause.

3,592 posted on 03/07/2008 5:05:22 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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