[papertyger]

To construe such as sadistic indicates that for others to cast ANY ASPERSIONS on the 'SACRED IDOLIZED OPINIONS' of any RC rep is to be sadistic.

Oh I think it's pretty cut and dried. What would you call someone who abuses another, then claims the abuse was for the good of the abused when the abuse is so obviously enjoyed by the abuser?

Then add the attempt to deflect responsibility for the abuse by claiming the vicitm is too picky...well, let's just say it's well traveled ground for those of us familiar with patterns of abuse.

[Quix]

i THOUGHT it was well understood that I didn’t support the RUBBER DICTIONARY of the RC edifice.

Guess I learn something new every day.

Soooooo the magicsterical that was sooo many times in history the world’s experts and chief administrators of physical sadistic torture . . .

has now decreed? Where’s the encyclical?

that

ALL disagreements with the magicsterical’s positions on virtually anything to virtually any degree and particularly with any forcefulness above the burp of a gnat

ARE to be construed as

HORRIBLY SADISTIC, ABUSIVE and otherwise dispicable, beyond the pale of civil society and quite akin to slug burps and volcanic eruptions all over sight-seeing priests and nuns . . . as well as ash falling on icons of the archetypal EARTH MOTHER—in other words—terminally dreadful.

NOTE TO PROTTYS: Please ammend and annotate all copies of your RC rubber dictionaries.

[Mad Dawg]

The premise of the S-E category is that arguing with the sufferers is fruitless. It's like arguing with an alcoholic -- a waste of time and energy.

And that's actually a key point and aspect of the diagnosis, what is colloquially called the "psychic vampire" phenomenon.

A metaphor is that the sufferer feels, shall we say, "lacking" or "invalid".

(This is not a spiritual phenomenon. One can be psychologically adequate and still realize how profound the need for Christ is.)

The things lacked are things like affirmation of existence, sense of power, sense of importance, worth, etc.

At least in an aspect I've seen here, the sufferer himself cannot "contain" himself, but also doesn't get the affirmation he needs if he does contain himself. The principle is: If you make a big enough mess, Mommy and Daddy will certainly have to clean up AND pay attention to you.

The more the sufferer can sucker anyone into an exchange which can then be drawn out by all manner of devices, the happier and more secure the sufferer of S-E feels. And the more frustrated or angry the sufferer's target gets, the more powerful the sufferer feels. " I can MAKE Mommy and Daddy pay attention to me!"

This is just a metaphor, but it works pretty well, both in terms of diagnosis and of directing response.

[fortheDeclaration]

What would you call someone who abuses another, then claims the abuse was for the good of the abused when the abuse is so obviously enjoyed by the abuser?

Doctors?

LOL!