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which is why I also agree that the explanation is obviously that there is not the political will to build it on either side

It is rather pathetic that Bush is whining about not getting his security law renewed because we are "losing ingtellingence," while our southern borders remain porous, if not wide open, in large part because of lack of the chief executive's will to secure this nation from illegal entriy of terrorists and possible epicemics.

Speaking of intelligence, his former "brain," Mr. Rowe, admitted the other day that the reason our young people are dying in Iraq is, well, not security but the price of oil. How pathetic is that? Especially given that the oil was only $37 a barrell when Bush decided to invade Iraq. His glaring "success" is evident at the gas pumps.

Someone is making a profit! I wish he had as much resolve to defend this nation's security by going after the unknown number of enemy combatants who could have slipped in during his administration, as he has been instrumental in helping those in oil business almost tirpple their profits in merely 7 years. Talk about priorities!

The underground economy would mushroom to before unseen heights, and all the criminals, and terrorists (as you correctly pointed out), would still freely come over.

What underground economy? If you penalize greedy and unethical businesses that hire illegals, sooner than later the source of jobs for the illegals will dry up.

What we are doing is trying to keep unwanted visitors out of the house by locking up all doors and windwos but leaving the back yard porch door wide open!

FK: "The underground economy would mushroom to before unseen heights, and all the criminals, and terrorists (as you correctly pointed out), would still freely come over."

What underground economy? If you penalize greedy and unethical businesses that hire illegals, sooner than later the source of jobs for the illegals will dry up.

I mean cash under the table stuff, like small landscaping/lawn care, small diner cooks, mom and pop motel work, and drug smuggling. I agree that workers for "big agriculture" might be out of work and have to leave, but there will still be some opportunities for those who stay. I'd rather do everything we can to prevent them from coming here illegally in the first place. Other than this I basically agree with the rest of your post.