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To: kosta50
Part of that is a myth that God promised, and led Jews to the promised land. All historical data suggest that the Hebrews never left Palestine and lived right next to the Canaanites, and were subjected to Rhamses II's son a few decades after the alleged Exodus, without suffering any consequences for humiliating his father. In biblical days, that would have constituted a sure genocide. Never happened.

Read: I believe the presuppositions of atheistic scholars over the testimony of Scripture.

But people always had hopes, for an opportunity or for a "miracle." Sometimes these hopes are unrealistic but chances are that over a few thousand years they may come close to being fulfilled by random chance alone.

I've already demonstrated the irrationality of this thinking earlier and you had no reply and yet you continue with these nonsense assertions.

So, the messianic myth developed...

The messianic "myth" developed directly after the Fall when God promised that Eve's descendant would crush Satan.

3,400 posted on 03/01/2008 8:02:19 PM PST by the_conscience ('The human mind is a perpetual forge of idols'.)
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To: the_conscience
Read: I believe the presuppositions of atheistic scholars over the testimony of Scripture

You have no objective proof whatsoever that the scripture is anything but a book. You claim that a book is holy and I aks you to prove it. The Jews claim only tre oT is "holy," and the Muslims cliam the Koran is "holy," and the LDS claim all books are whole including the Book of Mormon...men decide. Get it? It's all abrakadabra without a shred of evidence or proof.

If you believe it is holy then it is holy but only as far as you are concerned. State it as your belieef "I believe the Bible is holy." Cliaming it as a matter of fact is foolish because such an extraodrinary claim cannot be backed up by equally extraordinary evidence.

I've already demonstrated the irrationality of this thinking earlier and you had no reply and yet you continue with these nonsense assertions

You have not proven anything, leats of all anything requiring reason. You can't even prove your basic premise, namely that the Bible is holy. All your prtenses are subjecitve beliefs. How can you prove soemthing irrational if you use irrational a priori beliefs?

The messianic "myth" developed directly after the Fall when God promised that Eve's descendant would crush Satan. That is patently false. Pre-captivity Judaism did not expect a messiah, did not have a concept of messiah, and did not have a concept of the devil. Satan in Judaism is an obedient servant of God. Judaism explicitly rejects any notion that an angel can rebel against God's will.

3,411 posted on 03/01/2008 9:48:15 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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