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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50
I suppose this was just ANOTHER set of institutional "bad apples" that we are supposed to ignore. For all the supernatural powers claimed by Apostolic clergy, high and above the clergy of other Christian faiths, I would think their overall track record would be much better than it is.

It's easy to throw darts at an over 2000 year old Church and find so called members who do NOT follow the teachings ,FK.

Does this make you feel superior,Dear Brother?

Should I bring up the countless atrocities done in the name of one's personal interpretation of scripture that came out solo scripture, the foundation of protestantism?

What you should really say to yourself is ..."I am amazed that through all of the persecution and all of the sin committed by some of the sinful members who don't follow Catholic teaching- that the Catholic Church still exists"

The Gates of hell will never prevail against the Catholic Church,just as Christ promised.

3,388 posted on 03/01/2008 7:01:50 AM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi; Alex Murphy; kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; Mad Dawg
It's easy to throw darts at an over 2000 year old Church and find so called members who do NOT follow the teachings, FK. Does this make you feel superior, Dear Brother?

Nope, I have no need to claim superiority. However, the Apostolic Church DOES claim superiority. That's my point. It is simply a long standing hobby horse of mine that since the Apostolic Church claims to be absolutely superior and absolutely exclusive (yours is the only true Christian faith, etc.), then I would expect to see a reason for that in the hierarchy. While it is doubtless that countless men have served with honor and true Christian piety, I nevertheless see nothing "superior" in the men, as a whole, who have made up this superior club.

Should I bring up the countless atrocities done in the name of one's personal interpretation of scripture that came out solo scripture, the foundation of protestantism?

No need. We do not answer for all non-Apostolics who call themselves Christians. But it really wasn't my point to play "who committed the most atrocities". I don't think that matters so much. While our clergy is certainly called, they do not claim nearly the things that Apostolic clergy do. Kosta has said many times before something along the lines of "extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof". My point is that I would expect to see some sort of evidence of worthiness, etc.

The Gates of hell will never prevail against the Catholic Church, just as Christ promised.

The verse says:

Matt 16:18 : And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

This is a perfect example of the superiority and exclusivity that is claimed by your Church. Christ says "my Church" which you interpret to mean ONLY your particular Church. If that's what Christ really meant, then I would expect to see a difference between "your people" and "my people". I do not. However, I DO see a difference between Christians in general (including you guys) and non-believers in general.

3,567 posted on 03/06/2008 5:56:47 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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