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To: MarkBsnr

The earth and all it holds proceded out from God, and it is not God. Neither is the Bible, but the Bible holds the wisdom of God, and all who ignore it do so at their own peril. Yes, the men were inspired, by the Holy Spirit, who, as we know, is God. These men did not write, as you put it, “Thoughts and impressions and memories” but instead wrote what the Holy Spirit wanted us to know about God the Father and his Son.


3,169 posted on 02/26/2008 7:45:18 PM PST by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: irishtenor

Then you might stop worshiping it.

The Holy Spirit inspired all the original men who wrote the original tracts. But we’ve had all manner of folks involved including the monarch of England. Now there are some here who rail on about the Church being a political structure. Imagine, if you would, the mindset of people who fled religious persecution in England, only to kowtow and genuflect to not only the political translation of the Bible known as the KJV, but also the Westminster Confession.

Can you image the minset of people who would willingly agree to slavishly follow such an abominable text as a religioius one commissioned, bought and paid for by the English Government; followed by one very similar from the Scottish Parliament.

We follow the Creed created by the Church of Jesus Christ. Reformed follow one not only of men, but of foreign governments as well. One might question the Reformed theological sanity simply on those grounds, and not only on the dozens of theological contradictions and non sequiturs compiled by men such as Calvin and Luther.


3,170 posted on 02/26/2008 7:52:51 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: irishtenor

***The earth and all it holds proceded out from God, and it is not God. Neither is the Bible***

These are good words and true.

***but the Bible holds the wisdom of God, and all who ignore it do so at their own peril.***

If you mean ignore the wisdom of God, what exactly do you mean? The Reformed elect have no choice but to follow the indwelling HS and have no need of the Bible. The unelect can not ignore it to their utmost effort, but it means nothing since they are going to hell.

Who exactly in the Reformed universe utilizes the Bible?

***These men did not write, as you put it, “Thoughts and impressions and memories” but instead wrote what the Holy Spirit wanted us to know about God the Father and his Son.***

That doesn’t mean that the Bible you have in your possession has those characteristics; neither does it mean that the original texts were either. The Gospel according to Matthew is not equivalent to The Gospel according to God.

It is man’s feeble attempts to write about the infallible in fallible terms.


3,175 posted on 02/26/2008 8:51:54 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: irishtenor
The earth and all it holds proceded out from God, and it is not God. Neither is the Bible

The reality shows us that it's not just the earth, and that the Creation is actually beyoind our comprehension and a mystery in and of itself.

It has been human tendency, as far back as we can tudy anthropology, that humans tended to assign that which they didn't understand to "God" or demons. Be it earthquake, thunder, desease, flood, you name it, it was always lost its divine lustre when the cause was finally discovered.

The divine argument is actually valid only so long as we don't know the cause...and that's pretty sad. The track record doesn't look good for those who persist in assigning divinity to all human ignorance.

We can't think only in terms of us and earth. We have to think it terms of not one galaxy with billions of stars but of billions of galaxies that existed hidden from our view for aeons and in terms of what else is hidden from us...tgo realize that we have no clue what the purpose of all this is. But it sure ain't us.

3,195 posted on 02/27/2008 5:22:09 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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