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To: stfassisi
Correction:

Should say..

I have no doubt that there are certain things this country destroys and will not allow people to view either,yet they allow for all kinds of pornography and filthy commercials on tv in the name of freedom

3,137 posted on 02/26/2008 1:51:41 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi
I have no doubt that there are certain things this country destroys and will not allow people to view either,yet they allow for all kinds of pornography and filthy commercials on tv in the name of freedom

And what things would those be? Certainly not Roman Catholic writings, because I can access NewAdvent on my computer just fine. And I'm sure I could find plenty more at the local library. But why did you bring this up? To avoid answering my question (again)? Here it is again in case you missed it:

My question dealt with how you justify destroying things under the auspices of the magisterium. Because God told them to? How do you know? Did God give them an explicit, "secret" command to destroy things held by others who claimed to have a "secret" knowledge? How ironic...

You ask:

...And your only concern is that we protect this false freedom and not destroy pornography?

The pornography issue, as I pointed out, is a red herring. We're discussing whether or not it's justifiable to destroy books because a self-appointed magisterium doesn't like what's in them. Again: If the words and ideas therein are bad, why shouldn't they be countered with words and ideas that are good, instead of destructive force?

I am a great sinner, and I am in no position to sit in personal judgement of anyone. All I am contending is that sin is not justifiable, whether it's done under the authority of an "infallible" Church, or by myself, among the worst of all sinners. We need to repent of our transgressions, not give hand-waving rationalizations for them.

BTW,you made the assertion about breaking into houses to destroy things,not me.

Then how, pray tell, do you intend to enforce it? From the same article you posted:

The First Ecumenical Council of Nicæa (325) condemned not only Arius personally, but also his book entitled "Thalia"; Constantine commanded that the writings of Arius and his friends should everywhere be delivered up to be burned; concealment of them was forbidden under pain of death. In the following centuries, when and wherever heresies sprung up, the popes of Rome and the oecumenical councils, as well as the particular synods of Africa, Asia, and Europe, condemned, conjointly with the false doctrines, the books and writings containing them. (Cf. Hilgers, Die Bücherverbote in Papstbriefen.) The latter were ordered to be destroyed by fire, and illegal preservation of them was treated as a heinous criminal offense. The authorities intended to make the reading of such writings simply impossible.

How can this be justified? This happened down through the centuries, and not just at the hands of Roman Catholics but Protestants as well. Lord have mercy on us.

3,138 posted on 02/26/2008 3:54:27 PM PST by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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