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To: stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg; hosepipe; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; Quix; wmfights
Thank you for your reply and for sharing your concerns!

That said,I find illogical for anyone to try and compare Joseph Smith,Ron L Hubbard to the Dogmatic teaching of the Catholic Church.

There are Freepers who believe very, very, very strongly in the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints (Joseph Smith) and in Scientology (L. Ron Hubbard.)

I'm quite confident that you would not consider their beliefs equal to your own. They would likely feel the same about yours.

In considering the key question "Who do you believe?" I provided a range of examples. They included the successful (Catholic, Orthodox, LDS) and the tragic (Applewhite's Heaven's Gate, Koresh's Branch Davidians and Jim Jones.)

As for me, again I testify that I love God, I believe Him and I trust Him. Him alone.

Can you imagine where we would be today if the Catholic Church had NOT made the Divinity of Christ and Trinitarian Baptism and many other things Dogmatic, thus “concrete truth”?

God is not powerless to convey His own words or to otherwise accomplish His own will. He would not have been stumped if Abraham or Moses or David or Mary or Esther (etc.) had said "no".

No mortal being - or collective of mortal beings - can thwart the will of God. Indeed, no thing at all can thwart the will of God.

And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. - Luke 19:40

Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: - Isaiah 46:9-10

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying], Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. - Psalms 2:1-5

But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. - Matthew 19:26

To God be the glory, not man, never man.

2,775 posted on 02/23/2008 10:19:18 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


2,776 posted on 02/23/2008 10:22:47 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Alamo-Girl; kosta50; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis
There are Freepers who believe very, very, very strongly in the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints (Joseph Smith) and in Scientology (L. Ron Hubbard.) I'm quite confident that you would not consider their beliefs equal to your own. They would likely feel the same about yours.

With all due respect ,Dear Sister, the protestant belief that their scripture interpretations are always guided by the Holy Spirit is the cause of these groups you mention.

Catholic/ Orthodox rely on over 2000 years of the teaching authority of the Church lived through the lives of the Apostles martyrs and saints

2,791 posted on 02/24/2008 7:32:04 AM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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