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To: Alamo-Girl; Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; kosta50; MarkBsnr
[ My reason for posting all this information on Enoch is to make the case that the Catholic Church claim that the church always and everyone believed thus and so is patently empty. ]

According to Millers ( and other) Church History(s) the Roman Catholic Church didn't even gain ascendancy(primacy) until the early third century A.D. (313a.d.).. Until then various "church" centers of influence existed.. even after that.. The EO's still Don't recognize primacy.. I believe..

The seven churchs of Asia in Revelation was/is quite prophical I say..

2,667 posted on 02/22/2008 1:34:44 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
Millers Church History..
http://www.sherryshriner.com/church-coverup.htm
2,668 posted on 02/22/2008 1:46:56 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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At post 2611 I included an excerpt from the Catholic Encyclopedia concerning Damasus I. Seems to me that much of what we see today was rooted in his papacy, 366-384 AD.
2,673 posted on 02/22/2008 2:14:41 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl; Forest Keeper; kosta50; MarkBsnr

“According to Millers ( and other) Church History(s) the Roman Catholic Church didn’t even gain ascendancy(primacy) until the early third century A.D. (313a.d.).”

That’s a fairy tale, hosepipe; spin to cover for the excesses of the Reformation by fabricating bogus history. I must say I have never really understood that sort of thing as there were plenty of reasons to reform the Medieval Latin Church without resorting to that stuff.

“Until then various “church” centers of influence existed.. even after that.”

They still do, hosepipe. They are called Patriarchates and there are a number of them east of the Adriatic. There was never more than one west of the Adriatic, Rome.

“The EO’s still Don’t recognize primacy.. I believe..”

In accordance with the rulings of the Councils, Orthodoxy recognizes that Rome is the first see of Christendom; that it holds a primacy of honor. Orthodoxy further holds that Rome separated itself from the rest of The Church by teaching novel doctrines unknown to the Fathers of the Ecumenical Councils or to The Church of the first millenium. Most of the most important of those Roman theological innovations which caused the schism were adopted by Protestantism. There is, therefore, a schism between Rome and the other Patriarchates and so for now Constantinople holds the primacy of honor among the Patriarchs of The Church.


2,675 posted on 02/22/2008 2:47:15 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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