You mean anyone would have the freedom to call the Pope Satanic spawn, for instance? That’s the “parameters” of the RF????
And, yes, I’m RVW. I’ve been lurking, then posting mostly off then on since ‘98. Last time I was lurking in the RF a few years ago, I watched several Calvinists get booted (along with a Catholic friend or two), one for calling Catholic doctrine “silly.”
The old RM and maybe some before him . . . seemed to be
. . . easily mainpulated by the RC edifice in favor of their sensibilities . . . hyper sensibilities, I might say.
Anyone or anything that seemed to indicate that they were less than perfect could be construed as grounds for getting booted, it seemed. They had developed wailing, whining and running to mamma Mary evidently to an art form.
Thankfully, things are much more fair; much more reasonable; much more balanced and effective toward discourse that is
NOT PERSONALLY ASSAULTIVE.
Ideas, issues, folks not part of FR etc. are all reasonably fair game.
I’ve been slapped down sometimes hard or merely counseled advisedly before posting to avoid jangling RC sensitivities unnecessarily tweakily. But those times have been rare. There are phrases which I’m not allowed to use . . . even though they technically fall within the parameters of not being personally assaultive . . .
because the phrases would leave so many RCs in such orbital outrage for so long. . . . at least that’s my impression of such.
And there’s sometimes some ebbing and flowing of levels of sensitivity and decorum expected.
And a Maryolatry thread just got locked because of “childishness.” I assume on both sides but perhaps more lopsided than I think.
All in all things are greatly better than under the old RM. Greatly better. Much more reasonable, fair, balanced and focused on limiting personal attacks vs sensibilities about ideas, beliefs and other stuff ‘out there.’
I think the other old constantly moving boundaries were fraught with unfairness and could only be so given their nature.
Welcome back. I think. LOL.
Dear Lord_C:
Wishful thinking of peaceful times past only cloud one’s mind, damn the “parameters” here, and full steam ahead!
(But, seriously, this forum could use more of your attitude and sense of humor)
RD
RC’s certainly used to rule the roost around here much more than now.
And they’ve been fussing endlessly and uproariously about it 24/7 ever since things became more balanced, fair-minded etc.
Beliefs are not personal assaults.
RC’s have been saying things just that horrendous about Prottys 24/7 from the beginning of FR and still do.
They want a double standard. They are relentlessly fussing that their double standard has been adjusted toward a fair-er standard. They seem quite unused to and intolerant of a level playing field.
Bashing The Roman Catholic Church has come to mean anything a Protty says about the RCC that an RC finds annoying or the least bit objectionable for whatever thin-skinned reason.
Sometimes the RC’s evidently find some mods or even manage to get Jim to sympathize with that perspective.
Most of the time, Jim and others are more solid in their respect for and insistence on a more level playing field.
All the wailing, ranting and dust throwing on the part of the RC’s is, to discerning Prottys, yet more proof that UNBIBLICAL sacred cows have been gored—as is the only proper thing to do with a “Christian’s” sacred cows.
I personally don’t find any of the recent Popes near such a label.
Reportedly, Roman Catholic Seers insist that the next Pope will be well within such a category. THAT’S YOUR FOLKS, saying such.
Personally, as long as folks refrained from personal attacks of other FREEPERS, I think they ought to be free to say anything remotely clean of foul language about anyone’s beliefs and about non-FREEPERS.
But y’all can’t even manage that. I’m the brunt of personal attacks virtually 24/7—exclusively by rabid RC’s who can’t imagine that THEY ought to live within the rules.
I think you really do not appreciate 1/25th as significant as it is to Prottys—how horrendous a LOT of the RC statements are to Protty sensibilities.
But you also demonstrate as a group that RC’s do not the blazes care. THEY see themselves as GOD’S ONLY authentic assessor of reality and Prottys can jolly well take whatever the RC’s dish out and be jolly well thankful the Inquisition isn’t operating now or certain of the Prottys would have been placed on the rack months if not years ago and still be there.
Prottys are not about to roll over and play dead to humor the sensibilities of the RC’s.
It is our God given duty to defend Biblical truth as much from our perspective as y’all see it similarly from yours.
Political power-mongering may be !!!!TRADITIONAL!!!! and full of finely honed habitual skills in the RC camp . . . but such does not impress Prottys.
EVEN WHEN RC’s manage to get the FR hierarchy throwing banning lightening bolts at Prottys . . . sooner or later one reaps what one sows.
Sooner or later . . . GOD ALMIGHTY will settle accounts.
And there will be no appealing to a clique of favorite mods or even to Jim.
A lot of RC doctrine is worse than silly—it is horrificly heretical and damningly idolatrous and blasphemous. That’s just the facts. Doesn’t matter what political moves one gets backing up one’s responses to that. Facts are still facts.
And Prottys’ sets of facts have AT LEAST as much justification as RC’s sets of facts and we think far more.
Most Prottys think of the rabid intensely pontificating RC’s as incredibly thin-skinned and super immature—reminding us more of 2 year olds because of their emotional outburss and thin-skinned wailing, whining and dust throwing.
So, no, I don’t think FR is a branch of the Vatican regardless of how often one gets a clique of mods or even Jim to sympathize with a given round of RC thin-skinned wailing. Nor should it ever be such a Vatican branch.
It’s already far too much that way, to my construction on reality anyway. Y’all have wailing and whining and dust throwing down to such an art, it can be very effective.
Kind of reminds me of the commie leftist demonstrators so skillful at getting conservatives in trouble with the police.
However, the Protty side of things is not at all impressed with such tactics regardless of how effective they can too often be.
The mature thing would be to take one’s lumps as they come and respond with rational argument or AUTHENTIC historical evidence instead of all the routine hogwash so frequently proffered by the rabid RC’s.
But RC’s hereon are addicted to a horrific DOUBLE STANDARD so most of us Prottys don’t expect much fairness nor rational discourse from them.