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To: the_conscience; wmfights; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; blue-duncan; Marysecretary; ...
Faith isn't a Kierkegardian "leap of faith." Faith is the hope in promises through the evidence of unseen things. God promised a Messiah and it was fulfilled. Evidence. You may not believe the evidence but that does not make it unprovable or incoherent.

AMEN! And God graciously raised Christ from the dead to prove it all true. Evidence.

In the end the Catholic faiths deny revelation, especially the Greeks with their faith in their pagan philosophers negative theology, and with this denial of revelation down goes the doctrine of God and especially the person and work of the Holy Spirit. With the Holy Spirit reduced to merely the power of God, rejecting his personhood, and with the rejection of revelation, then all revelatory religions are gnostic. Not having any transcendence to back their religious system they install a system of precedence that tries to mimic transcendence. When over time this system of precedence naturally fails the current man/god in power is said to possess the revelatory power to override past precedence. We see this with Mormons, Romanists, and Greeks.

AMEN!!!

In great part the Reformation was a restatement of the work and purpose of the Holy Spirit which the church in Rome had tried to all but obliterate.

"The Holy Spirit may be justly called the key with which the treasures of the kingdom are unlocked to us; and his illumination constitutes our mental eyes." -- John Calvin, INST. III:i.4.

2,411 posted on 02/20/2008 11:31:19 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; the_conscience; wmfights; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; Marysecretary

“Faith isn’t a Kierkegardian “leap of faith.””

2Cr 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

Jhn 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed.

The word for believe is the same for evidence produced by sight and that produced by faith.


2,414 posted on 02/20/2008 11:44:42 AM PST by blue-duncan
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