Sorry, I haven't had time to follow this tread but this did catch my attention. I find the Orthodox Church to be more honorable in their beliefs. While I strongly disagree with their views and believe it is heretical in nature, there is a consistent pattern of how they arrived at it. However, their view is built upon Cassian's point of view that was considered heresy by the Roman Catholics at one time.
I mean this with the utmost respect and sincerity, but I find the doctrine of Roman to be nothing more than a gobblygook mess. It is an idolatry nonsensical doctrine that Catholics can't even keep straight; raising Mary and the Church far higher than our Lord Jesus. Catholics can't even define what it means to venerate something-but they certainly know how to venerate a plastic statue of Mary that sits in the corner or to bury a statue of Joseph next to the realty sign so the house will sell. Catholics say they have a great respect for the scriptures, but in truth, like the Orthodox, they don't. Their actions of trying to destroy the trust in the scriptures and where they come from belies what is purported. The early fathers never had any doubt as expressed here. It doesn't surprise me to see the Roman Catholics slowing moving back towards the erroneous teachings of the Orthodox because they can't figure out simple concepts like "a chosen nation". It is rather laughable, IMHO, that you would suggest that I would twist and corrupt history when Catholics won't even admit an edict from the "infallible" Pope was rescinded. History is constantly being rewritten by the Catholics. Shall I pull out the 4th Lateran Council of 1211 which states you can't be saved unless you belong to the Church? That is still on the books. You look in the Catholic records and there is enough to hang you. But the mantra with Catholics is given enough time and perhaps no one will look in the records.
History is constantly being rewritten by the Catholics. Shall I pull out the 4th Lateran Council of 1211 which states you can’t be saved unless you belong to the Church? That is still on the books. You look in the Catholic records and there is enough to hang you
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INDEED!
***While I strongly disagree with their views and believe it is heretical in nature, there is a consistent pattern of how they arrived at it. However, their view is built upon Cassian’s point of view that was considered heresy by the Roman Catholics at one time.***
What is the basis of your judgement on what is heretical and what is not?
***It is an idolatry nonsensical doctrine that Catholics can’t even keep straight; raising Mary and the Church far higher than our Lord Jesus.***
No it is not. You have no proof nor do you have sufficient evidence.
***Catholics can’t even define what it means to venerate something**
We can and we do.
*** It doesn’t surprise me to see the Roman Catholics slowing moving back towards the erroneous teachings of the Orthodox because they can’t figure out simple concepts like “a chosen nation”.***
Huh? Can we pull together a coherant post please?