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To: hosepipe; MarkBsnr
I said authorized.. not told...

The one who "authorizes" is the one in authority. It doesn't make a difference. In your theology, the HS is taking orders, or accepting authority from Jesus. That subordains the HS.

The Holy Spirit does as he pleses as far as I know

That contradicts what you said about Jesus authorizing the HS.

You are tripping all over yourself here, espousing two contradictory beliefs:

1) that Jesus "authorizes," i.e. gives authoirty to, empowers, the HS. and 2) that the HS does as He pleases (as far as you know [sic]?)

2,241 posted on 02/18/2008 4:28:51 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

Do you have a problem with John 15:26? Jesus clearly will SEND the Councelor (Holy Spirit) to his followers. So Jesus does authorize the Holy Spirit to come. Same with 16:7.


2,242 posted on 02/18/2008 4:54:31 PM PST by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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