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To: MarkBsnr
I could point out many public examples (and private ones, too) of the Reformed who went the other way.

Works, works, works that's all you have. I pray some day you see how little they do for you.

If the Holy Spirit indwells you the works you value so highly will occur. However, those works will not cause the Holy Spirit to indwell you no matter how hard you try.

Gal.5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

You have not gotten to the end of your life; you have miles to go before you go in front of the Judge.

I rather have Faith in the Judge than depend on deeds.

John 10:28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.

2,232 posted on 02/18/2008 2:44:31 PM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: wmfights
If the Holy Spirit indwells you the works you value so highly will occur. However, those works will not cause the Holy Spirit to indwell you no matter how hard you try.

Amen!

Good works are the evidence of our salvation, not a requirement for it.

Nothing can merit God's mercy except Christ on the cross, by whose stripes we are healed.

2,251 posted on 02/18/2008 6:31:12 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wmfights

***MB: I could point out many public examples (and private ones, too) of the Reformed who went the other way.

WF: Works, works, works that’s all you have. I pray some day you see how little they do for you.***

Are you claiming that the Reformed elect can commit any sin in any quantities, refuse repentence, and still be welcomed into Heaven?

***If the Holy Spirit indwells you the works you value so highly will occur. However, those works will not cause the Holy Spirit to indwell you no matter how hard you try.***

Have you not been paying attention? The Holy Spirit comes to Christians through baptism. He does not drop out of a tree like a leopard in the jungle.

***Gal.5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. ***

The fruit of the Spirit, sure. Do all the elect display the fruit of the Spirit? I see many who claim that status not displaying them. Are they wrong? Does this mean that anyone who is angry is not of the elect? Does this mean that anyone who loses control goes to hell? What do you mean by quoting this verse?

***I rather have Faith in the Judge than depend on deeds.***

What do the Reformed think that they are being Judged on? I have seen Reformed claims right here that state that they will not be Judged. If you are not Judged on your deeds, then what ARE you judged on?


2,290 posted on 02/19/2008 9:47:26 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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