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To: kosta50
[ Oh, with all due respect, please stop making things up. Latin was the legal language and the language of sciences (medicine, mathematics, you name it) and of literature. ]

Like I said Kosta.. or the highly educated.. Course they were few and far between.. Royalty or the Wealthy which were usally the high born(Royalty and Servants/Bureaucrats) in some aspect.. The poor which were almost everybody was not educated "that way".. They indeed were schooled in the trades, farming, and what we call blue collar today.. Even in Italy they did not "speak" latin.. but Italian quite different from Latin..

Scripture was LOCKED UP in Latin.. as fully as secular law was locked up by the RC Kings and sycophants..

2,156 posted on 02/16/2008 7:21:54 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
Like I said Kosta.. or the highly educated.. Course they were few and far between.. Royalty or the Wealthy which were usally the high born(Royalty and Servants/Bureaucrats) in some aspect.. The poor which were almost everybody was not educated "that way".. They indeed were schooled in the trades, farming, and what we call blue collar today.. Even in Italy they did not "speak" latin.. but Italian quite different from Latin

That is all true, hosepipe, but their spoken languages were not developed enough to be used for anything short of folk poetry. Germany did not have a literary German language when Luther was translating the Bible from Greek and literally creating new German compound words that didn't exist beforehand, and with that the German literary language.

Sure, the Italians spoke Italian, but what did they write in it? Very little until after the Renaissance. None of the vernaculars was sophisticated enough to express biblical concepts; they were the tongues of peasants whose vocabularies were greatly impoverished and whose grammar was pretty much whatever they wanted it to be (sort of like modern American English!).

You can pretty much tell the extent of the Saxon dictionary by lookng for German words in the English language. If you come up with more than 500 words, you are good. You know, words such as man, house, ax, ox...

The Church did not lock up the Bible with Latin; there was no other alternative. And the reason colloquial language bible were not allowed is because vernacular was a vulgar language the way our street slang is, in addition to being impoverished in phraseology and grammar.

Part of the problem with the Bible is that even literary Latin, which was derived from Greek, does not fully convey the same concepts as the koine Greek. And Latin is a liturgical language!

The world languages are being challenged to come up with their own computer phraseology which was developed in English, or simply to bastardize the language by accepting them, no matter how awkward and unintelligible they may be.

This is because many languages are incapable of creating their own words that are not only equivalent in meaning, but in brevity and clarity. besides, such words make it impossible to 'chat' with others about anything hi-tech, medicine, etc.

2,158 posted on 02/16/2008 10:19:44 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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