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To: Dr. Eckleburg; irishtenor; blue-duncan; the_conscience; HarleyD; Quix; wmfights
Where do you get this stuff?

Verse 14. Are you going to tell me He means the crowd when He says "You are the light of the world?" Context, Dr. E, context.

Yet this error does fit with the absurd amount of power you invest in "other Christs."

First we Orthodox don't have "other Christs." Second, your opinion of the Church in this a particular instance doesn't is uirrelevant because this is my opinion as seen in context, and barating the Church on this occasion adds nothing to proving he was calling the crowd the 'light" of the world.

If you are looking for error, look not farther than the Protestant Deformation.

Have you read the concurrent verses in Luke 6?

The same way I read all of the bible. Luke says one thing and Matthew says another. That's why the chapters are not called "Matthew's Chapter accoridng to God" but simply "Accoridng to Matthew. There is a reason for that...it's Matthews version.

Try comapring Matthew's genealogy of Jospeh with Luke's. They can't even agree on Josphe's father's name, let alone the rest of the genealogy (different names and number of ancestors!). And Mark's "Great Commission" (the part that is not in older manuscripts, imagine that!), doesn't match Matthew's. That's how the whole bible is.

Cheer up, Kosta! God willing, Christ was addressing the Sermon on the Mount to you, too

I am cheerful, Dr. E. Despite all the "quirks" the Gospels do proclaim a beutiful message that, if followed, makes us and the whole world a lot nicer, and hopeful

2,056 posted on 02/14/2008 7:45:28 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; irishtenor; blue-duncan; the_conscience; HarleyD; Quix; wmfights; Alamo-Girl; ...
The same way I read all of the bible. Luke says one thing and Matthew says another.

But you've just chosen Matthew over Luke, so you're not comparing to harmonize, but simply selecting which verse you prefer...out of context.

In context, both Gospels say Christ was speaking to a multitude of His disciples and they all heard Him.

And those with ears given by God understood Him.

What's the purpose of excluding the multitude from the Beatitudes? Why would Christ ignore the throngs of eager followers who came to hear Him and touch Him, and instead whisper the Sermon on the Mount to only a select few?

Don't you see how that perspective keeps the spoken truth of Christ from men as individuals and instead places it secretly among a small hierarchy of men who then decide to whom and when to reveal it?

Doesn't it just make sense to get the truth from Christ's own lips rather than through more human intermediaries?

In all my life I've never heard anyone, Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox, say the Sermon on the Mount was delivered only to the Apostles.

You're in a minority of one here, Kosta.

2,063 posted on 02/14/2008 11:53:11 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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