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The damning evidence agaist the Catholic Church's behavior during this time involves forced "conversion" of Orthodox Serbs into the (Roman) Catholic faith. But that was the Church's policy ever since Austrian Empress Maria Theresa instituted aggressive Uniate conversions in the 18th century.

I think we can go back to when the church first started having the power of the state behind it to find persecution of Christians who did submit to it's authority. No matter which group suffers it is wrong and it certainly would not justify doing it to them when the roles were reversed.

WM: Is this another example of what we discussed earlier where organizations become "organisms of sorts" and protection of the organization becomes more important than the mission

K:I would say it is more a reflection of the self-righteous, self-serving, fallen human nature.

I think the history speaks for itself.

Your lamenting that Evangelicals did nothing to stop these atrocities is understandable, but wrong. I may have very strong beliefs that the EOC and RCC are wrong in large areas of doctrine but I would never want any harm to come to them and I know of no other Christians who would. I've never heard of anyone proposing such a thing and if I did a know a whole bunch of Christians who would condemn it.

The problem is probably more rooted in our liberal, politically correct media.

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think we can go back to when the church first started having the power of the state behind it to find persecution of Christians who did submit to it's authority. No matter which group suffers it is wrong and it certainly would not justify doing it to them when the roles were reversed.

Power corrupts, and the Founding Fathers had the wisdom to create a system of checks and balances precisely in order to avoid any one particular group or indiviual from attaining too much power. They did this because they learned from a harsh lesson. With power comes self-righteousness (pride). Besides, most people are unaware of goings on because most of the power is exercised behind the scenes accessible to the public.

Your lamenting that Evangelicals did nothing to stop these atrocities is understandable, but wrong. I may have very strong beliefs that the EOC and RCC are wrong in large areas of doctrine but I would never want any harm to come to them and I know of no other Christians who would

Well, same here. But I also never said they wished any harm. But power brokers may not be as sentimental as an average Evangelical. Bottom line is: whether it's Orthodox Greece, or Orthodox Serbia, or even Orthodox Russia, we are more prone to see them as adversaries of the Protestant west than as fellow Christians and often choose their adversaries as our friends and allies.

What have we done about the Muslim slaughter of Christians in Sudan? Where is the outrage in the Christian world? Where are Christian knights defending fellow Christians. I will tell you where they are: in Kosovo helping Albanian Muslims carve out yet another Muslim state in Europe!