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To: MarkBsnr
TThe mindset here is that of unbelief of the extent of Muslim occupation of the entire world. They do not know of 6 centuries of Muslim occupation of Spain. They do not know of the Muslim occupation of the regions best known to them as Albania/Kosovo. They do not know of the Muslim occupation of the Holy Lands. They do not know of the Muslim occupation of Turkey and most of the Middle East. They do not know of the Muslim occupation of Egypt and all of North Africa. They have no idea where St. Augustine came from. They have no idea of the Muslim occupation of Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have no idea of the Muslim occupation of Burman and Southeast Asia. They have no idea of the Muslim occupation of the Phillipines. They have no idea of the Muslim occupation of Indonesia and Malaysia. And, they have no idea whatsoever of the Muslim occupation of Dearborn, Michigan.

And you left out the Holy Land aka the Land of Israel in which the EO and RC Patriarchs side with the Muslims against the Jews on a daily basis.

They are coming for you, people. The former Catholic stronghold of Hamtramck in Detroit has a mosque blaring out prayers six times a day, even though church bells are forbidden because they are religious. They are coming. What you all going to do about it?

Just decide not to sell out like the Catholics of Hamtrammack.

In our community Catholic Charities has been sponsoring Muslim families from Bosnia and elsewhere for over a decade now -- thousands of them. So just who is the real problem here????

1,747 posted on 02/09/2008 12:22:12 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; kosta50
“”In our community Catholic Charities has been sponsoring Muslim families from Bosnia and elsewhere for over a decade now “”

This is because we reach out to everyone in need out of Love, and in turn we pray that our example of Love will open their hearts so we can minister them.

A while back on another religious forum a protestant brother told me that while he was working at a homeless shelter that he observed that the homeless people would not show up when a certain group of protestants were working at the shelter and they would show up in large numbers when the Catholic community was there.

He was told by the homeless people that they felt threatened by th the constant pounding of scripture versus being thrown at them to the point it made them feel belittled.

He went on to say that the Catholic’s simply Loved them and humbled themselves in the way they served them.

This, my friend is Christian Love.

Love is Not one’s ability to choose whom to love and to force the Bible on someone!

I wish you Peace of mind!

1,750 posted on 02/09/2008 1:28:21 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Uncle Chip

“And you left out the Holy Land aka the Land of Israel in which the EO and RC Patriarchs side with the Muslims against the Jews on a daily basis.”

This seems to be a regular refrain of yours. UC, you haven’t a clue who those Orthodox and Latin Catholic people in Israel are do you? Do you think that they are people who sort of moved in drooling like the evangelical tourists who infest the Holy Land these days, wandering around like livestock, wide eyed, clutching at their approved versions of the bible and looking for red calves? They are, in fact, people who have been Christians for 2000 years. The Latin and Greek hierarchs there are the hierarchs of those people. Those people are Christian Palestinians. Whom do you suggest they support, UC? The truth is they simply have wanted to be left alone...but neither the Mohammedans, with the assistance of the Bush Administration nor the Jews, with the assistance of the Bush Administration and the money and encouragement of you American Protestants, will leave them alone.


1,752 posted on 02/09/2008 2:17:58 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Uncle Chip

***the EO and RC Patriarchs side with the Muslims against the Jews on a daily basis***

You wouldn’t happen to have examples, would you? I am unaware of any such activities.

***They are coming for you, people. The former Catholic stronghold of Hamtramck in Detroit has a mosque blaring out prayers six times a day, even though church bells are forbidden because they are religious. They are coming. What you all going to do about it?

Just decide not to sell out like the Catholics of Hamtrammack.***

It was not the Catholics of Hamtramck. It was the Baptists and the Evangelical movement that runs the city of Detroit. It is exactly as kosta described. The Protestant movement has sold out Christianity.


1,765 posted on 02/09/2008 4:58:09 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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