Gave???? I laugh --- the Greeks only let loose of them when the hordes of Islam began to invade the east and destroy those Byzantine Churches and everything in them. It was only then that all those Greeks began sending their manuscripts to the west for safe-keeping.
And you criticize the KJV translators for taking this Received Greek Text and translating it into the English??? What were they supposed to do with it -- stuff it away for another thousand years like the Greek Orthodox did??? Where in God's name was your Greek/English or Greek/German or Greek/anything translation for all those and these years???? in limbo??? in your imaginations???? Did you think that God ordained salvation only for the Greeks????
And now today the Greek Orthodox Church has abandoned that very Greek Text that they gave to the West and that was read in all their Greek lectionaries in all their Greek churches for all those centuries. And they have now abandoned that traditional Received Greek Text and adopted the two most corrupt manuscripts in history -- Vaticanus B and Sinaiticus. And the EO has the aqudacity to brag about Tradition -- What happened to that Traditional Greek Text?
No, just for doing such a lousy job.
Where in God's name was your Greek/English or Greek/German or Greek/anything translation for all those and these years?
Why would Greeks make translations for others?
And now today the Greek Orthodox Church has abandoned that very Greek Text that they gave to the West and that was read in all their Greek lectionaries in all their Greek churches for all those centuries
What a crock! What went into Textus Receptus were two 12th century unreliable Byzantine text-type copies of clopies of copies. only an idiot can consider that reliable. besides, Erasmus used the unreliable Vulgate for those parts of the Bible he couldn't find in Greek. And in one instance he even retro-translated a whole section from Vuglate Latin into his (lousy) Greek and passed it on as the "ancient" Received Text!
the two most corrupt manuscripts in history -- Vaticanus B and Sinaiticus
The Greek Orthodox Church uses Codex Alexandrinus, which is the same text trecived by Erasmus and which is a lot more corrupt than the older 4th century Codices Vaticanus and Sinaitcus, the least "polished" and altered and the oldest, of all other manuscripts. In fact the Received Text are copies of the 12th century copies of the highly "harmonzied" and choregraphed end of 5th century C. Alexandrinus, which has been throughly "Christianized."
What exactly is "corrupt" about the oldest Bibles that's not found in those produced on later versions of "received text?" The whole Bible is one big human corruption—additins, delitions, word swapapings, erasures, changes, scribal errors, you name it.
We are not even close to anything that resembles a "received text," and the Erasmus's book by that name and its KJV deirvative are about as far out on the periphery as it gets.
Your post is truly one of the most bizarre I have read on FR. Do you know anything at all about Orthodoxy?
“And now today the Greek Orthodox Church has abandoned that very Greek Text that they gave to the West and that was read in all their Greek lectionaries in all their Greek churches for all those centuries.”
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“What happened to that Traditional Greek Text?”
OC, we use the exact same scriptures Liturgically that we have used since at the latest the late 4th century, the Byzantine Text. We don’t use the Alexandrian texts and we certainly don’t use the Latin texts. What do you mean?
As for giving you Westerners the scriptures, we did. The canon you read as scripture, the “bible” you Westerners love to thump, was established by a bunch of Greek speaking bishops in a “I’ll trade you a Letter to the Hebrews for a Revelation of John” type process. You read the canon you do, with some small changes to avoid problems raised by the proetstant revolution, because we Greeks said that canon was in accord with what The Church taught...not the other way around, OC.
You ask why we didn’t translate the NT into other languages. We did, as I assume you well know. Funny how the translations of the NT into Arabic, Coptic, Amharic, Aramaic, Syriac, Church Slavonic, Armenian, Georgian, Ge’ez, and a number of other Semitic and Turkic languages, oh, and I forgot, Japanese,Mandarin and Cantonese, are all absolutely faithful to the Greek, even if the understanding of some of the words was divergent. But when we head west of the Adriatic, we find perversion after perversion of the text. You know why, UC? Its because the East had no particular agenda whereas from the the West did, especially by the 16th century.
I am absolutely convinced that God ordained salvation for the Greeks, and all the rest of the world too...and He chose Greek for His new scriptures, not English, or German or Latin.