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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“However, again I’ll ask you for evidence that any demon or fallen angel believes Christ to be their Saviour, which, of course, was the original question.”

That’s not my original question.


146 posted on 01/28/2008 3:40:09 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

Later.


147 posted on 01/28/2008 3:46:40 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR; ScubieNuc; WileyPink; Gamecock; Quix; wmfights; HarleyD; fortheDeclaration; ...
That's not my original question.

Oh no, not these word games again.

You said: "Just knowing and believing doesn't mean salvation."

To which I replied that while demons "know" Christ is Lord, they do not "believe" He is their Saviour.

Thus we see Jesus and Paul and Peter telling those with ears to hear that to believe that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Saviour is evidence of your salvation since it is God who has given you faith in Christ in the first place.

But don't take my word for it.

"...Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." -- Acts 16:30-31

I assume the RC Bible also has Acts 16 in it. And John and Romans and 1 Peter?

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." -- Romans 10:9-13

Note that in Romans 10 Paul felt so strongly about this he repeated the verse twice within the same chapter.

"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you." -- 1 Peter 1:18-25

Interestingly, Christ spoke the word "tradition" dozens of times, but always with scorn.

"Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me." -- John 14:1


"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36


157 posted on 01/28/2008 6:02:42 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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