Quick-tempered leaders are like mad dogs— cross them and they bite your head off.
Don't eavesdrop on the conversation of others. What if the gossip's about you and you'd rather not hear it? You've done that a few times, haven't you—said things Behind someone's back you wouldn't say to his face?
Why do you feel the necessity to carry water for MarkBsnr? He seems like a intelligent enough person to handle his own affairs. If he felt slighted in some way he could have responded directly to me. Are you the den mother for the Romanists? Mark threw some bombs my way as well yet your scales seem to be rigged when it comes to finding fault. Did I waste Megabytes of webspace to whine about a perceived fault? No. When my comment was called a joke I made a joke.
Be especially careful when you are trying to be good so that you don't make a performance out of it. It might be good theater, but the God who made you won't be applauding. 2-4"When you do something for someone else, don't call attention to yourself. You've seen them in action, I'm sure—'playactors' I call them— treating prayer meeting and street corner alike as a stage, acting compassionate as long as someone is watching, playing to the crowds. They get applause, true, but that's all they get. When you help someone out, don't think about how it looks. Just do it—quietly and unobtrusively. That is the way your God, who conceived you in love, working behind the scenes, helps you out.
The other two comprise directly calling a poster "dopey".
The "dopey" comment was brought up by another Romanist and I merely used his terminology but you already knew that, right? Acknowledging that would not help your case so you think it wise to slander me through omission.
When you see God reach out to those you consider your inferiors—outsiders!— you'll become insanely jealous. When you see God reach out to people you think are religiously stupid, you'll throw temper tantrums. Isaiah dared to speak out these words of God: People found and welcomed me who never so much as looked for me. And I found and welcomed people who had never even asked about me. Then he capped it with a damning indictment: Day after day after day, I beckoned Israel with open arms, And got nothing for my trouble but cold shoulders and icy stares.
In my exile I have had the salutary experience of watching the posts go by. And it is simply astonishing not only how little our thinking is understood, but how those who misunderstand seem to prefer not understanding the enemy (for such they think we are) to knowing the truth about us.
Yes, we understand your position. Any criticism of Romanism is wrong and no one outside of Romanism can really understand all her subtle nuances, even trained ministers. Romanists never engage in polemics against protestants and always understand Protestantism completely. "Heal thyself".
Don't pick on people, jump on their failures, criticize their faults— unless, of course, you want the same treatment. That critical spirit has a way of boomeranging. It's easy to see a smudge on your neighbor's face and be oblivious to the ugly sneer on your own. Do you have the nerve to say, 'Let me wash your face for you,' when your own face is distorted by contempt? It's this whole traveling road-show mentality all over again, playing a holier-than-thou part instead of just living your part. Wipe that ugly sneer off your own face, and you might be fit to offer a washcloth to your neighbor.
And yes, I quite seriously think that some of the posters here have serious "issues" such as I have described.
Your continual portrayal of person(s) on this forum as mentally unstable is disgusting. I believe a public apology is in order.
God, they murdered your prophets, They trashed your altars; I'm the only one left and now they're after me! And do you remember God's answer? I still have seven thousand who haven't quit, Seven thousand who are loyal to the finish. It's the same today. There's a fiercely loyal minority still—not many, perhaps, but probably more than you think. They're holding on, not because of what they think they're going to get out of it, but because they're convinced of God's grace and purpose in choosing them. If they were only thinking of their own immediate self-interest, they would have left long ago.
I mentioned the new "diagnosis" of “Sado-Evangelism” to him, and he just shook his head, and then laughed ruefully....I will be putting up a moderated forum on the topic of S-E within 10 or so days. I'm going to be gathering anecdotes from people who have been targeted by people claiming to be presenting the Gospel of Christ, especially those who explicitly or implicitly say that they are being intentionally cruel for the sake of our souls, and trying to classify and organize them and then I’m going to run the observations by some pros I know.
I'm sure you'll all have a great time in the echo chamber. No doubt the Jews of old held similar forums discussing those nasty prophets. Evangelism will always be sadistic because it cuts to the bone and heart of the natural man. He cannot help but feel offended because his pride is crushed by his sinfulness. Then the natural man will either fall to his knees or "kick against the goad". Here's my sophisticated evangelical methodology.
1. Speak the truth.
2. Let the Holy Spirit do the rest.
Here's the message
Repent: Throw away the idols and superstitions of Rome.
Believe:
REST IN CHRIST ALONE
REST IN CHRIST ALONE
REST IN CHRIST ALONE
Believe that Christ, not only paid for your sins, but also is your perfect righteousness.
I repeat, I don't get it. And I'd guess that if it's too bad to say on Sunday, it's probably not going to be good enough to say on any other day.
Yes, I know. The Regulative Principle of Worship says that only God can determine true worship through his special revelation and all the manmade additions of Rome are an abomination to God. Part of the RPW is to rest from our work on the Sabbath and enjoy God. It has nothing to do with whether it was "good" or "bad" to say on the Sabbath.
(See? I can do the "stopped beating your wife" thing as well.)
Seriously, I misunderstood. Yes. correction noted, thank you.
Wow, I note for the first time an adversary riffing on my "handle". Your continual portrayal of person(s) on this forum as mentally unstable is disgusting. I believe a public apology is in order.
Not necessarily. Not if it's true. And not if the best and kindest way to deal with this kind of thing is to take away the cover.
Not carrying water for MarkBsnr. Complaining, (evidently when a Catholic raises a beef it's called "Whining", so) whining about a style of communication and thinly veiled personal assault. MarkBsnr is a big boy and can take care of himself.When my comment was called a joke I made a joke.
What am I tho think about your holding your behavior up as an example and immediately afterwards giving a quote about not making a performance of your good deeds?
The "dopey" comment was brought up by another Romanist and I merely used his terminology but you already knew that, right?
Wrong, actually. But whoever brought up the term, you aimed at at an individual. That's not my notion of speaking the truth of resting in Christ. Is it yours?
Yes, we understand your position.
You follow that with so great a misstatement of my position that it is mind-boggling. So, no, you, at least, do not understand my position. And the issue is not that it's so hard to understand, but that some evidently haven't taken the trouble to understand it.
You also don't know all my communications. I've taken shots from people on my side when I suggested they might be acting too harshly.
Here's my sophisticated evangelical methodology.
1. Speak the truth.
2. Let the Holy Spirit do the rest.
And this explains calling people dopey? Is that the truth part or the Holy Spirit part?
I’m sure you’ll all have a great time in the echo chamber. No doubt the Jews of old held similar forums discussing those nasty prophets. Evangelism will always be sadistic because it cuts to the bone and heart of the natural man. He cannot help but feel offended because his pride is crushed by his sinfulness. Then the natural man will either fall to his knees or “kick against the goad”. Here’s my sophisticated evangelical methodology.
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I come from a tradition . . . family and otherwise . . . where . . . when one went to church . . . we didn’t feel we’d been to church unless at least once or twice, the Pastor’s sermon had cut a little close for comfort, or more.
And some Pastoral candidates weren’t approved because they weren’t starkly fierce enough with the Word of God—the ear tickling kind. Such didn’t go over well in these parts.
***Why do you feel the necessity to carry water for MarkBsnr? He seems like a intelligent enough person to handle his own affairs. If he felt slighted in some way he could have responded directly to me. ***
Appreciate the kind words.
We are engaged in give and take on an online forum. I understood it as a portion of an ongoing and sometimes fierce discussion. So be it.
***Here’s the message
Repent: Throw away the idols and superstitions of Rome.***
We have. Now we just have to convince you to throw away the man made theologies and superstitions rooted in the Reformation.