Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Perhaps a collection for tissues would be of service?
Good point. Their practices actually FOSTER the very thing they swear up and down they do not believe. It's like they are tempting themselves.
Yeah, I've noticed you're not too choosy about counting your "blessings."
I chose my forum name because I loved Tom Terrific and Manfred the Wonder Dawg as a kid. My father used to claim that there was a period of a couple years where I would not answer to him or my mother unless they called me “Manfred”. It continued to be my nick-name until my dad passed away.
Cousins? Could be.
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Ask MarkBsnr -- "(I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)"
Mark, did you really say that? The authority of the church gives one a belief in the Gospel?
You could not and would not believe in the Gospel by your own Spirit-led reading comprehension? By your own quickened mind and reborn heart? With your own two eyes and ears given by God alone?
We can conclude from this logic that if the church moved you away from the Gospel you would follow happily since the church has all authority.
You have a keen eye. No doubt for the laity Mary is the archtype.
It gets even worse, however, for the “professional” class. When you hear them say, “there is no bible without the Romanist Church”, the necessary inference is that the Church is Christ himself, the Word, that the Church is in hypo-static union with Christ for it to declare itself the Word. The Church is the archtypal Christ.
I can think of no higher idolatry.
Who believes that? Can you cite a specific reference, from an authoritative source that echos that statement? If you're referring to the concept of the magesteriem, I would remind you that "who hears you hears Me".
It gets even worse, however, for the “professional” class. When you hear them say, “there is no bible without the Romanist Church”, the necessary inference is that the Church is Christ himself, the Word, that the Church is in hypo-static union with Christ for it to declare itself the Word. The Church is the archtypal Christ.
I can think of no higher idolatry.
= = =
INDEED.
Thanks for your kind words though any keen eye is obviously not my doing but my Creator’s.
Hmmmm
So, IF Mary has taken the place of Holy Spirit
and the magicsterical has taken the place of Holy Spirit . . .
Sounds like a lot of competition for Holy Spirit’s job, to me!
Ping some Orthodox and find out. I think you'll be surprised at teh level of devotion they have , and rightly so, to the great Panhagia.
This is why the mission field is so fruitful in South and Central America. Once we can get Bibles into peoples hands they see the TRUTH. I believe we see so much idolatry because they are seeking, but they just haven't been shown that's not THE WAY.
So the leadership of the Holy Spirit is inept?
However, the closer a church adheres to the written word of God, the more confidence that church and its members may have that it is being led by the will and purpose of God by the gift the Holy Spirit.
So churches aren't so much "led" by the Holy Spirit as "advised" by Him.
WESTMINSTER CONFESSION OF FAITH
As usual, all footnotes denotes Scriptural proofs found at the provided site.
What's that for? The Bible doesn't have any Westminster Confession of Faith, does it? What are Scripture references for when you've got Scripture itself?
Your pardon; I had thought that you professed allegiance to the OPC rather than simply church hopped as the whim struck you. Very well, then. I stand corrected.
***Some churches perceive God’s grace more clearly than others, as these threads attest.***
True. Some churches follow foreign government sanctioned doctrines of men. And some pretty strange doctrines at that. I mean just imagine the silliness at leaving England to pursue religious freedom and then slavishly following the religious doctrines commissioned, bought and paid for by that same government.
***I’ve sent Mark to the Westminster Confession of Faith, but sadly, he does not see the splendor of its Scriptural foundation.***
Any Scriptural foundation of the WCF is twisted and warped to the point where it is unrecognizable to Christians. I suppose that I’ve been concentrating more on the offensiveness of its unChristian theology.
***Any church that adheres to the Bible cannot go too far astray.***
There are a bunch of Bible only churches such as the Worldwide Church of God that are totally asea.
***So we preach the Gospel as God has commanded.***
Reformed apologists quote mostly Paul and the OT.
I was wondering when the sado-evangelism was going to start up again.
THAT
is sadistic, to you?
Fascinating.
Yep. And this error was what drove the Reformation when the church at Rome insinuated itself between God and man, and replaced the Holy Spirit with the doctrines of men.
And here's a great little piece I found today that I think you'll like, Quix. (It's at the bottom of the page.)
To construe such as sadistic indicates that for others to
cast ANY ASPERSIONS
on the ‘SACRED IDOLIZED OPINIONS’
of any RC rep
is to be sadistic.
Fascinating.
Well, certainly the RC edifice has to be the historical expert on sadism. I will have to concede that.
However, in this era, I think quite a number of folks will find that rubber dictionary daffynition to be quite outrageous.
I think we should all be aware of this new daffynition. Not that we need agree with it in the least. But it helps us understand the . . . perspective . . . of the RC edifice better.
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