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email from Randall Easter | 25 January 2008 | Randall Easter

Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg

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To: hosepipe
All from a magic wand.. now thats magicterial..If you get my drift...

And oyu porbably believe in Santa too.

2,961 posted on 02/25/2008 10:16:01 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
[ And you porbably believe in Santa too. ]

heck..... I've BEEN Santa...

2,962 posted on 02/25/2008 10:20:03 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: wmfights; Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan
Sometimes no matter how much proof there is right in front of people they just won't see it. The OJ Simpson jury is a perfect example of how people can ignore the truth because of underlying agendas

You are only reinforcing my point. What you say can be applied to those who claim divine ESP.

All the evidence has been laid out from fulfillment of prophesy, witness statements, changed lives of Apostles and believers. I believe you are saying these things don't constitute proof because you enjoy debating.

No, because these "prophesies" are made up of words borrowed from different, and often unrelated parts often written by different people and at different times, and presented as if they were one solid prophesy. Most of them are written after the fact.

You are presenting your own personal belief as a matter of fact. What proof do you have for that?

2,963 posted on 02/25/2008 10:21:08 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
From the Heidelberg Catechism:

1. Q. What is your only comfort in life and death?

A. That I am not my own,[1] but belong with body and soul, both in life and in death,[2] to my faithful Saviour Jesus Christ.[3] He has fully paid for all my sins with His precious blood, and has set me free from all the power of the devil.[5] He also preserves me in such a way[6] that without the will of my heavenly Father not a hair can fall from my head;[7] indeed, all things must work together for my salvation.[8] Therefore, by His Holy Spirit He also assures me of eternal life[9] and makes me heartily willing and ready from now on to live for Him.[10]

[1] I Cor. 6:19, 20 [2] Rom. 14:7-9. [3] I Cor. 3:23; Tit. 2:14. [4] I Pet. 1:18, 19; I John 1:7; 2:2. [5] John 8:34-36; Heb. 2:14, 15; I John 3:8. [6] John 6:39, 40; 10:27-30; II Thess. 3:3; I Pet. 1:5. [7] Matt. 10:29-31; Luke 21:16-18. [8] Rom. 8:28. [9] Rom. 8:15, 16; II Cor. 1:21, 22; 5:5; Eph. 1:13, 14. [10] Rom. 8:14.

 

2. Q. What do you need to know in order to live and die in the joy of this comfort?

A. First, how great my sins and misery are;[1] second, how I am delivered from all my sins and misery;[2] third, how I am to be thankful to God for such deliverance.[3]

[1] Rom. 3:9, 10; I John 1:10. [2] John 17:3; Acts 4:12; 10:43. [3] Matt. 5:16; Rom. 6:13; Eph. 5:8-10; I Pet. 2:9, 10.

2,964 posted on 02/25/2008 10:21:50 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: hosepipe
heck..... I've BEEN Santa...

You mean you pretended to be Santa?

2,965 posted on 02/25/2008 10:21:56 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

***Knowing of something is not knowing it. You may have heard of something, and you know that it exists, but you have no clue what it is.***

An ant may “speak” to a human in its fashion of communication.


2,966 posted on 02/25/2008 10:24:29 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights

Simeon’s prophecy in Luke 2:32, “A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel” which is a fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy in Isa. 49:6

The phrase “I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.” indicates that the Gentiles are included in the offer of salcation, especially when the next verse cites “kings” and “princes” worshipping him.

Isa. 49:6, “And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
7 Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.”


2,967 posted on 02/25/2008 10:24:49 AM PST by blue-duncan
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To: kosta50
[ You mean you pretended to be Santa? ]

Nope I was him.. In Alaska we have a town called North Pole..
Elves and everything.. even raindeer...

Course only female raindeer(caribou) have antlers in winter..
Rudolf... has issues..

2,968 posted on 02/25/2008 10:25:57 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: kosta50; All

Betty-boop, doubting someooene who pretends to be the mouthpiece of God is not judgment.

= = =

I say again . . .

in our era . . .

CHILDREN will say

essentially . . . some variation of:

THUS SAYS THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY: . . . .

AND whole armies will disappear into the earth &/or some other variation of being very dramatically terminally disposed of.


2,969 posted on 02/25/2008 10:26:12 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: wmfights; Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan
Yet when Abraham took Isaac to be sacrificed he didn't actually kill him, but his faith was credited to him as righteousness

And did God have any doubts how Abraham would respond? Or did God just want to torture him a little? God has no reason to test anyone. Did God not know that Abraham had the faith, but instead had to demonstrate it to God by killing his own son? So, was God finally "convinced" that Abraham had the faith to be saved when Abraham was about to kill his son? I have seen the example you mentione used before and It's not the Christian God we know.

2,970 posted on 02/25/2008 10:28:03 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Alamo-Girl

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

I ain’t what I wanna be by too big a margin.

Thankfully, by His Grace,

I’z a whole lot bettuh than I wuz.


2,971 posted on 02/25/2008 10:29:11 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: wmfights

People are changed by a whole bunch of things, including life experienced over time.

I was changed by travelling to various countries in the performance of my job duties, and getting to meet various people and experiencing their cultures.

I was changed by an emotionally violent divorce.

Neither of these are proof of (or against) God.


2,972 posted on 02/25/2008 10:29:43 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Then there’s that troublesome contingency when one is compelled to forcefully speak out on an issue when one knows it will be perceived as a personal defense. I hate those.


2,973 posted on 02/25/2008 10:30:11 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: MarkBsnr

I have observed no convincing evidence of that.


2,974 posted on 02/25/2008 10:30:50 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: MarkBsnr
An ant may “speak” to a human in its fashion of communication

An ant reacts as is proper and within his capacity to what is in front of him, whether it be a human, a dog, puddle of water, or a shoe. We react to our realities within our finite capacity.

2,975 posted on 02/25/2008 10:31:33 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: hosepipe
Nope I was him.. [Santa]

Thank you. And now you are Napoleon?

2,976 posted on 02/25/2008 10:34:03 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
[ Thank you. And now you are Napoleon? ]

And you are a smart ass.. touche'.. eye poke / Curly(Howard) salute..

2,977 posted on 02/25/2008 10:42:03 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Quix
LOLOL! Such is life.

Thank you so much for all of your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!

2,978 posted on 02/25/2008 10:46:03 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Forest Keeper; Alamo-Girl
Man leads and God follows. Further, your Church claims that your clergy and your clergy alone can request that God do certain things and God will ALWAYS do those things EVEN IF the priest is unworthy (supernatural powers).

It's interesting that this comes up as some are questioning A-G's claim (if such it be) to be speaking in or for the Spirit.

I'm sure A-G would not be claiming "supernatural powers" for herself but would rather say something like the gift was God's to give and for reasons best known to HImself He'd given it to her, at least for now.

I've heard plenty of guys, including Jimmy Swaggart, talk about "my ministry". It's dangerous run of phrase because it can lead us to think that our call is something of ours, belinging to US, not something we owe God. I suppose some of our clergy think '"->I<- have supernatural powers!" But when I thought I was a priest I thought of myself what I now think of the RC (and orthodox) clergy, that what they have is God's promise, and nothing of their own.

Again the notion of "Apostolicity", of agency and delegation and deputization, all those concepts hover around the question of the charisms of the clergy.

Sure, it amounts to ALMOST the same thing "on the ground", but I think the difference is important. The minister who thinks of the ministry as "his" is in trouble. You remember when Swaggart's church yanked his "commission", and he said he wasn't going to quite because "his ministry" was too important? I trembled for him then.

If you read our Mass or Baptismal prayers, the language is not, "Hold my beer and watch this!" but a language of pleading, of NOT acting like we take God's promises (as we think of them) for granted.

According to your Church, every single time a person does not choose God, he thwarts God's will. You can't have it both ways. Either man is free to thwart God's will or he isn't.If I think of God as in time, I think of Him saying,"Well it certainly is a good thing that an evening is as a thousand years because I've got to come up with a new way to snag Dawg."

But I don't much think of Him as in time.

I freely confess that this is borderline senseless babbling. But I'm trying to deny the kind of "either/or" that you are presenting.

What do you all make of Jacob wrassling the angel?

2,979 posted on 02/25/2008 10:46:20 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
A

HUGE

10-4 on the "Readable"!
2,980 posted on 02/25/2008 10:51:06 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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