Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Indeed.
Along the way in my 61 years, I learned that some folks’ opinions were worth a lot more than others’ were.
And, that I could profit from prayerfully pondering such folks’ opinions.
I guess they teach different things in the RC edifice schools.
It seems to me that you’ve said some incredibly strong things about Quix to not know him that well.
Fascinating.
You have to get in the
INSINCERE GROVEL
line . . . the back of it.
Is Roman Catholicism reformed and what is called reformed in reality orthodox?.. NAH! they are both reformed from orthodoxy because orthodoxy is much simpler and more primitive than them both..
Great distinction.
And according to my usual desire to rewrite, even better than the word "testing" might be the word "trying," since "test" implies an uncertain outcome, and with God all things are certain. And we know that all things works to strengthen His family, one way or another.
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." -- Romans 8:28
Even the difficult stuff, the sad and lonely and worrisome stuff, is for our benefit to bring us to Him.
"Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts" -- Psalm 139:23 "Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, I will melt them, and try them; for how shall I do for the daughter of my people?" -- Jer. 9:7 "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God." -- Zech. 13:9 "But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold." -- Job 23:10 "Thou hast proved mine heart; thou hast visited me in the night; thou hast tried me, and shalt find nothing; I am purposed that my mouth shall not transgress." -- Psalm 17:3 "For thou, O God, hast proved us: thou hast tried us, as silver is tried." -- Psalm 66:10 "Until the time that his word came: the word of the LORD tried him (referring to Joseph, son of Jacob.)" -- Psalm 105:19 "The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth." -- Psalm 11:5
And finally, we have Paul's assurance...
And patience, experience; and experience, hope: And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly." -- Romans 5:3-6 "And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
Thus Christ's comforting guidance...
"In your patience possess ye your souls." -- Luke 21:19
That's a start. 8~)
“You have a hamper?”
I thought that was what the chair or floor were for, but as part of her saintness project/miracle, K has patiently over the years tried to train me to drop them in the “hamper”. I have progressed to opening the cover and settling for a jump shot from the corner. If they make it in, a success, however K isn’t amused. I don’t think saints have much of a sense of humor; self-denial and all that stuff must take it’s toll on some things.
I’m sure somewhere in her prayers she has pled, along with David, “It is enough: stay now thine hand”
And be sure to bend your knees, shoot from the wrist and release the underwear above your head (unless you're still wearing it, in which case, Kay has bigger problems than laundry.)
***If you can’t articulate the criticism you’re leveling at me, don’t expect me to help out.***
Oh, but you are helping out by pointing out the problems with, and the contradictions that are endemic in Reformed theology. I have thanked you in the past, and will continue to thank you.
You are worth an army of Catholic apologists.
I don’t know that you have 61 years of experience, what the experiences that you do have consist of, and of what use they are put. You are an online entity.
I do gather that they have not been used to understand the Church. I suppose that that is one difference in Catholic experiences, regardless of age.
That has to be the one of the silliest things I have ever seen written on any religious forum.
If that were the case than you would all believe that Eucharist is literally the Body and Blood of Christ and living a sacramental life.... Thus being united.
The reformation and the reformers did not unite anything, including themselves
What the reformation has lead to is -divisions upon divisions leading to thousands of protestant communities with various beliefs all claiming the Holy Spirit leads them.
The fruits of the reformation is the spirit of confusion.
The spirit of confusion is NOT the Holy Spirit!
The only thing protestants seem to be united in is attacks on the Catholic Church.
It was in the same fashion of those who wanted Christ crucified that the reformers in their pride sought out to TRY and divide and destroy the Catholic Church.
The gates of hell did not prevail as Christ promised and it is the protestant churches that ended up divided.
Silly question. Because we have objective proof that it is! :)
Our liturgy predates all other extant liturgies, and it just happens to be the liturgy used at the same time the Church canonized the Bible. Same mindset, same liturgy, same Church. To the best of my knowledge there wasn't any other at that time. It has to be pure because it canonized the NT, whose selection of books you use as scripture.
But, on the other hand, there are those who claim that the Church didn't do it (despite documents to the contrary), but claim, without any proof whatsoever, that the HS put it all together and simply handed it to the bishops, which of course, is nothing short of a fairytale.
These are the same people who persistently avoid to comment about the evidence of the existence of prehistoric animals because such a reality, and fact, interferes with (even threatens) their fairy tale beliefs.
Purity of Eastern Orthodoxy does not require an a priori belief. It is not a solipsistic fantasy based on self, nor on Gnostic self-righteousness. It is a historical fact that it is the most unchanged and oldest form of organized Christianity, and reflect in its totality the worship and the teaching of the Church that claimed the same heritage from the beginning when it canonized the New Testament.
How's that poultry, Dr. E?
God has no reason to test anyone.
***It seems to me that you’ve said some incredibly strong things about Quix to not know him that well.***
I have no knowledge about saying incredibly strong things about Quix.
I have said some things about what Quix has posted. Unlike some, I am able to differentiate between the core of the individual and words that that individual has posted online.
If people persist in confusing the two, I suppose that they will continue to cuddle a feeling of righteous persecution in their bosoms. To each his own.
Why, thank you, Mark, for such a great honor.
(Oh, where are my notes...how does my hair look...here they are...)
And I'd like to thank my mother and my father and all the Romanists who made this moment possible.
But most of all, I'd like to share this golden compliment with the multiplyng-by-the-grace-of-God throngs of reformers who proclaim "Christ alone!"
"One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you." -- Joshua 23:10
Amen.
***Is Roman Catholicism reformed and what is called reformed in reality orthodox?.. NAH! they are both reformed from orthodoxy because orthodoxy is much simpler and more primitive than them both..***
What a fantastic post. Do you mind if I ring up kosta and Kolo? Maybe we could be the ones grinning and giggling like third grade girls this time.
Amen! "Christ alone!"
Aren’t these goodie bags great? 8~)
You mean the New Testament that is imperfect and imprecise and some of it just plain wrong?
That New Testament?
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