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To: conservonator

RCC doctrine assumes two things, if your interpretation lines up with that:

a.) The saints mentioned in Rev 8:3 & 4 are in heaven. Scripture doesn’t tell us. They might be still alive in the flesh, on planet Earth.

b.) The saints in heaven have been petitioned by saints on Earth and are carrying those prayers. Scripture doesn’t tell us what content of the prayers.

Let me clarify one thing: I have not said that heavenly saints cannot intercede on our behalf. Rev 6:9 - 11 shows that they, in fact, do just that. I maintain that we who are on planet Earth are not to talk to those who have passed on, be they in heaven or in hell, except for to speak to our one and only High Priest Jesus.

Heb 12:1 shows heavenly saints either watching earthly saints (my interpretation) or witnessing in heaven - praising God - for His work in His people through the ages (a dispensationalist interpretation). This scripture does not show Earth-bound saints speaking to or praying to heavenly saints.


64 posted on 01/25/2008 5:43:16 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
a.) The saints mentioned in Rev 8:3 & 4 are in heaven. Scripture doesn’t tell us. They might be still alive in the flesh, on planet Earth.

Huh?

b.) The saints in heaven have been petitioned by saints on Earth and are carrying those prayers. Scripture doesn’t tell us what content of the prayers.

The content of the prayers is inconsequential, it could be a prayer that my dog is rid of her ear mites or it could be for the conversion of sinners, the fact is that, as you state The saints in heaven have been petitioned by saints on Earth and are carrying those prayers"

God loves us and we are His children, why would he cut us off from our brothers ans sisters perfected in him?

66 posted on 01/25/2008 6:39:08 AM PST by conservonator (spill czeck is knot my friend)
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