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To: JoshM99; xzins; Coleus; Colofornian; Elsie; Revelation 911; aMorePerfectUnion; ...
" Since God the Father has a body ..." Um, the 'body' God Almighty has is the one He possess in the person of Jesus Christ. The Almighty may take any manifestation He so chooses, and He has chosen to manifest Himself in Jesus Christ, through Jesus Christ, AS Jesus Christ, God with us. Since the ascension He also manifests Himself IN those who trust in Jesus Christ as their Deliverer, God IN US. If you have not Christ, you are none of His.

I've used this analogy before to try and steer Mormon thinking toward accepting the Trinity of God. Let's see how you, n00bie, accept it. Think of God as dimensionally manifesting at differing levels of complexity, with Jesus --God in the flesh-- as the least complex of His manifestations. A much greater manifestation than 'in the flesh' is required to Create the universe of space, time, and matter, yet the Bible instructs us that The Word Who was made flesh and dwelt among us (the God with us) is the same Word by Whom, and through Whom are all things made.

This 'by Whom all things are made that are' includes the new man in Christ Jesus that the believer IS, for He, The Word, dwells in the born again by His promise to do this not by the fables of men, and He proved He would be God in us by rising from the dead and being alive 'in the flesh of Jesus' and you and me forever more.

[Note: 'the flesh of you' is both the body AND the behavior mechanism called soul of you; your human spirit is raised from the dead the minute you profess Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, and Jesus taught His disciples about this 'dead' state of the human spirit when He referred to 'let the dead go bury their dead'.]

Since you are perhaps a n00bie at FR, if you require more on the topic, just ask and I will try to answer your questions. And if I cannot, there are very capable theologians here who can, I'm sure of it. But the vital thing you must realize and acknowledge is, your dead human spirit doesn't await resurrection from a dead state until you do all that you can do, the spiritual resurrection happens the minute you profess Him Lord! Once you are born again, raised to spirit aliveness, the transforming of your behavior mechanism is the process of works carried out by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God in you, the hope of glory.

[Note: when the Glory of God came into the Holy of Holies, God was in the temple ... you are the temple of the living God since the resurrection and ascension of Jesus, God with us become God in us.]

631 posted on 11/15/2007 5:58:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: XeniaSt

Meant to ping you, sir.


632 posted on 11/15/2007 6:02:38 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the ping!


642 posted on 11/15/2007 9:46:57 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: MHGinTN

Then we will have to agree to disagree. One of the important distinctions in Mormon belief over other Christian faiths is the revelation that God the Father has a tangible body as does His Son, Jesus Christ. It is also clear that God is distinct from His Son, as manifested at Jesus’ baptism and again in Joseph Smith’s First Vision. If we are created in God’s image then why would he not have a body?

Do you accept that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament? The I am? It is this same Jesus that formed the earth, under His Father’s direction.

God is omniscient and omnipotent, I cannot deny. Further, His influence is carried through the Holy Spirit. This “dimensionally manifesting at differing levels of complexity” only serves to confuse the true nature of God. If He is omniscient and omnipotent, having a body will not diminish these abilities in the least, nor require dimensional manifestations at different levels of complexity.

The LDS faithful also know it is necessary to be born again of the spirit. A very significant speech was given by King Benjamin in the book of Mosiah. Being born again is the renewal or rebirth of the spirit. I know not of the resurrection of the spirit. The only resurrection I know of is that given to all the children of God, which is the reunion of the spirit with the mortal tabernacle, turning corruptible into incorruptible. The resurrection as has been pointed out will be either to the resurrection of the damned or the resurrection of the saved, but all are resurrected.


695 posted on 11/16/2007 12:29:06 PM PST by JoshM99
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