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Is the Church really this blind? (Pedophile Problem)
LA Times ^
| 11 November 2007
| Jason Berry
Posted on 11/11/2007 7:19:28 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: ricks_place
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posted on
11/11/2007 9:42:13 AM PST
by
MrEdd
(Ron Paul is Ralph Nader for the right...)
To: Albion Wilde
I am sorry if I misconstrued your points. I am have no remedies for the Catholic Church. The issue is a complex one involving administrative and theological issues and it is not easily remedied by simple solutions such as marriage, etc.
I do believe, from my own professional experience, it is imperative that the Church begin a rigorous examination of proposed clergy who have decided on their life’s work before the age of puberty. It always seemed to me that the sexuality of those declaring before puberty ended up being very immature and peculiar from a common sense view. Many times the sexual acts and inclinations were analogous to adolescent sexual experimentation. This tendency to suppress sexuality on a spiritual basis may make sense as a voluntary, adult decision maker; however, even Protestant married clergy who have made their life choice before puberty often have similar problems.
To: shrinkermd
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posted on
11/11/2007 9:51:39 AM PST
by
VOA
To: shrinkermd
Ping to join the thread later
I had posted the exact same article about 30 minutes ago, not realizing you had posted it earlier!
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posted on
11/11/2007 10:00:18 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
To: Rum Tum Tugger; A.A. Cunningham
The point that I want to make here is that since becoming a Catholic, I have observed that on the whole Catholic Priests are the biggest group of weirdos and oddballs I have every encountered. In school, they were the guys who were picked last when choosing sides. They tend to display feminine characteristics and other unusual behaviors. They were the guys who no girl would date. You get the idea. Protestant ministers on the other hand tend to be normal, regular guys. They typically have lovely wives who make positive contributions to their ministry.
That's going to leave a mark. And if you compare the John Jay study to similar Protestant studies, it tends to ring true.
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posted on
11/11/2007 10:04:10 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
To: mike182d
If the Government would only legalize consensual teacher-student relations, the widespread problem with sexual abuse would be nearly completely resolved. /sarc/
To: Alex Murphy
Hardly, it’s simply another sweeping generalization made by an ignorant individual, which is why you are trumpeting it.
To: rightwingfop
alleged 40% of these cases involving girls You're the only one I've heard allege that 40% of cases involved girls. The figures I've seen indicate that 80-90% involve teenage boys; pre-teen children, both boys and girls, are included in the rest.
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posted on
11/11/2007 10:42:49 AM PST
by
maryz
To: Proud2BeRight
He’d probably have to be able to spell “celibacy” too! ;-)
49
posted on
11/11/2007 10:43:47 AM PST
by
maryz
To: A.A. Cunningham
50
posted on
11/11/2007 10:53:28 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
To: Rum Tum Tugger
How did you get to know all those priests? Sounds kind of weird to me. I've been a Catholic all my life, and I can't say I've really known more than a dozen or so -- and all but one or two had no oddball characterstics. Do you stalk priests or something?
51
posted on
11/11/2007 10:56:27 AM PST
by
maryz
To: rightwingfop
Again, why is it so easy to dismiss the alleged 40% of these cases involving girls and make this into a homosexual issue?I've never seen any statistics showing that 40% of the abuse involved girls.
52
posted on
11/11/2007 11:20:12 AM PST
by
SuziQ
To: Rum Tum Tugger
The point that I want to make here is that since becoming a Catholic, I have observed that on the whole Catholic Priests are the biggest group of weirdos and oddballs I have every encountered. In school, they were the guys who were picked last when choosing sides. They tend to display feminine characteristics and other unusual behaviors. They were the guys who no girl would date. You get the idea.Honey, you need to get out more! Sure there are some priests who are not your regular jock type of guy, but most of the jock types aren't interested in a life of service anyway. I've known MANY priests over my 54 years of life, and I could count on one hand the number who display ANY of the wierdo characteristics you seem to have noticed.
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posted on
11/11/2007 11:25:13 AM PST
by
SuziQ
To: ClearBlueSky
If you know the Bishop prosecuting you is a homosexual himself, would you not implicate him as well?Bishops don't 'prosecute'; the legal system does that. Unfortunately, some folks were cowed by their Bishops into NOT pressing charges all those years ago. If more had done so, the problem would not have gotten as bad as it did.
54
posted on
11/11/2007 11:28:35 AM PST
by
SuziQ
To: SuziQ
To: maryz
I was simply repeating what was stated in post 12 so I cant be the only one
To: shrinkermd
"Pedophile Priests" is not descriptive of the problem. It seems to be a way to indicate that homosexuality is normal but sodomizing boys is abnormal. A wasted effort at best and tragically misleading at worst. Absolutely true. Babyboomers, especially the ex-hippies, surely cannot be unaware that gays hit on boys as often as they can. I guess that in their mind the only sin is hypocrisy. I guess if you pay the little squezes, it is not hypocrisy.
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posted on
11/11/2007 11:46:45 AM PST
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: mike182d
The 60s and 70s were the high point of abuse, at least in Boston. The AG’s report lumped the 40s and 50s together (I think it was 19 reported cases for the 20 years) to make it look like an older problem than it was. Reported cases, according to the same report, started to drop off rapidly in the 80s.
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posted on
11/11/2007 12:02:01 PM PST
by
maryz
To: ChocChipCookie
59
posted on
11/11/2007 12:02:40 PM PST
by
tiki
(True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
To: rightwingfop
The 60% figure he gave was vastly understated — I have no idea where he got it. And it only mentioned pubescent and post-pubescent males anyway. The few true pedophiles went for pre-pubescent boys and girls.
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posted on
11/11/2007 12:05:16 PM PST
by
maryz
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