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To: topcat54
[Did Christ tell them that it was not going to happen-no, only that they were not to know the time of its happening.]

Where does He tell them that it will happen? All you have is an argument from silence, and not a very good one.

I have an angel telling the Apostles that same Christ they saw ascending is going to return the same way (Acts.1:11).

I have Paul saying that the Jew is going to return to favor again (Rom.11)

Besides, you cannot prove that present secular Israel is the exact fulfillment of any of your futurist fantasies. It may disappear tomorrow in a puff of nuclear smoke.

I don't have to prove that it is, the fact that it even exists shows that prophecy is getting ready to be fulfilled.

And you keep waiting for that nuke to wipe it out, the Arabs have tried and tried to get rid of it, like the burning bush, it will not be destroyed.

[ Just how much of the Bible do you guys throw out? ]

That's funny. Just think of it as we don’t happen read it with Mr. Scofield’s glasses.

Well, you must have some kind of glasses on, because whenever a clear future prophecy comes up you just flip it aside and say that it will not happen or that it means something else.

923 posted on 11/13/2007 1:52:49 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration; tabsternager; Lord_Calvinus
I have Paul saying that the Jew is going to return to favor again (Rom.11)

I see your problem, reading too much into Romans 11. It says nothing about the national state of Israel in that passage.

I don't have to prove that it is, the fact that it even exists shows that prophecy is getting ready to be fulfilled.

That's only proof by assertion. It is illogical to say that just because this entity exists that the secular nations call "Israel" is the equivalent to saying God calls it "Israel" according to His Word.

clear future prophecy

That’s an oxymoron. Sorry, but there hasn’t been much clarity on prophecy from your camp.

928 posted on 11/13/2007 2:06:40 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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To: fortheDeclaration; All
Well, you must have some kind of glasses on, because whenever a clear future prophecy comes up you just flip it aside and say that it will not happen or that it means something else.

= = =

They all do that.

I was shocked when the more rational amongst the Replacementarians refused to consider even the possibility that things Scripture VERY CLEARLY SAYS WILL COME TO PASS IN THE END TIMES

AND WHICH VERY OBVIOUSLY DID NOT OCCUR IN AD 70 NOR ANY OTHER TIME the last 2,000 years . . .

when such a normally ratioinal person denies, dismisses that such MIGHT JUST OCCUR IN THEIR LIFETIME . . .

it boggles my mind.

I have said what my boundaries on my construction on prophetic reality are . . . approximately 2075--roughly 125 years after Israel became a nation in 1948. I figure, by then, every last cohort would likely be dead of normal causes IF these are not the true BIBLICAL END TIMES.

However, I also noted that given quite a number of trend lines related to specific Biblical END TIMES prophecies, I can't see things lasting near that long.

Well before then, we are going to have a world government.

Well before then, we will have the Mark of The Beast.

Well before then, the nations under the Anti-Christ will try and utterly destroy Israel forever.

Well before then, the Anti-Christ will abolish all other religions and demand to be worshipped as God.

The handwriting is on the wall in neon lights even if I weren't a Chrisstian--I could STILL read Scripture and notice how much of it was coming true in the daily newspapers of our era.

Shoot, a computer could be prorammed in a fair-minded way and reach the same conclusions.

AND THEN I posted the whole article about the world money system being vigorously defended by the CFR fellow as the only way to go etc. etc.

Still not a peep from those who pretend to be fair minded and reasonable.

And they expect us to think something of their REASONing(s)????

What a farce. What a joke. What a charade.

Shrillery Klintoon makes more sense--well--sometimes.

953 posted on 11/13/2007 7:28:20 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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