[tabsternager]

“Oh my — another new definition for the “abomination”. So now the “holy place” [Mt 24:15] is the hills and valleys outside of Jerusalem, not Jerusalem or the temple??? and the Roman armies are “the abomination” and not Cesar Nero???”

Has it occurred to you that Jesus was not speaking to you when He said “when YOU see the abomination of desolation”? I know that in this “it’s all about me” world it’s easy to forget that Christ wasn’t addressing us.

But the fact is you weren’t there. But the ones whom Christ was speaking to understood the signs and as a result were able to escape the Romans.

One thing we know positively is that the abomination of desolation was from the Romany army. How do we know? BECAUSE LUKE 21 EXPLAINS MATTHEW. And we know from Josephus and other historic accounts that the Roman army set up their idol in the Temple before they destroyed it completely.

[Uncle Chip]

And we know from Josephus and other historic accounts that the Roman army set up their idol in the Temple before they destroyed it completely.

Where is that exactly in Josephus's writings???

And you do know that for decades the Roman Army maintained a fortress on the Temple Mount and its presence there was not an abomination to the Jews.

[fortheDeclaration]

No, Jesus wasn't speaking to 'us' He was speaking to the generation that would see the abomination of desolation set up, the Tribulation generation.

Lk 21 refers to the events of 70 AD, not to the events described in Daniel which the Lord made reference to in Matthew.

Funny how He didn't make the same reference in Luke.