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To: blue-duncan; Uncle Chip; wmfights; tabsternager; Lord_Calvinus
Did the high priest actually see Jesus coming in judgment at the destruction of the temple?

Yes. When he saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies and the impending destruction of the temple, I have no doubt that Jesus’ personal words to him were ringing in his ears. That is about as real as you can get, biblically speaking.

If your question is did the high priest actually see Jesus in His physical person, then the answer is no. But the language and context does not require that interpretation of the text, as I have demonstrated on a number of occasions.

Does Matthew 23:39, “Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord” contradict Matthew 24 and 26 and if not how do you reconcile them?

Nope. Unless you are trying to apply some forced dispensational hermeneutics. The reconciling is in the meaning of the language and context, including key phrases like "Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation " (v. 36).

You can wish away the fact that Jesus was speaking directly to that generation for their sins against the prophets and Him, but it impossible to do with any honest reading of the text.

829 posted on 11/12/2007 1:29:38 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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To: topcat54
"Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation " (v. 36).

What could be clearer? Christ's own words from His lips. "This generation."

You can wish away the fact that Jesus was speaking directly to that generation for their sins against the prophets and Him, but it impossible to do with any honest reading of the text.

AMEN!

831 posted on 11/12/2007 1:38:51 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: topcat54
If your question is did the high priest actually see Jesus in His physical person, then the answer is no. But the language and context does not require that interpretation of the text, as I have demonstrated on a number of occasions.

An assertion is not a demonstration. All you have demonstrated is that if you torture the text enough with your preterist exegesis you might be able to get it to deny exactly what it says.

832 posted on 11/12/2007 1:52:51 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: topcat54; Uncle Chip; wmfights; tabsternager

“Yes. When he saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies and the impending destruction of the temple, I have no doubt that Jesus’ personal words to him were ringing in his ears. That is about as real as you can get, biblically speaking”

Caiaphas (high priest 18-37 A.D) and his father Annas (high priest 8-15 A.D.) were long dead before the fall of Jerusalem. His tomb discovered in 1990 showed he was approximately 60 years old when he died. He saw nothing and heard less. He will see Jesus at the Great White Throne judgment just as Jesus said.


835 posted on 11/12/2007 2:17:25 PM PST by blue-duncan
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