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To: tabsternager
So when Jesus said He was the “Bread of Life,” should we take that to mean He’s a loaf of bread?

The Catholics do, but I'm not of that persuasion...

The problem with dispensationalism is that it doesn’t allow Scripture to interpret Scripture. Therefore, there is no standard basis for how to understand Scripture and as a result it often takes literally the apocalyptic hyperbole and metaphors and then spiritualizes the literal.

Now that's foolish and it's not accurate at all...

But to claim you compare scripture with scripture when you don't believe the scripture in the first place is going well beyond the limit of logic...

Jesus says He'll show up in a cloud...Maybe He'll show up in a Lear Jet...So what??? But IF that's a metaphor, we won't know what it represents till we see it...So what???

But the important part is we WILL see it...All eyes will see it...The cloud may, or may not be a metaphor, but, 'All eyes will see Him', is definitely NOT a metaphor...But you want to turn the entire verse into a metaphor, which it isn't...

To suggest that Jesus showed up in 70 AD 'in the Spirit', and then to claim you compare scripture with scripture is ludicrous...

As far as Isaiah 19 and your belief that God literally rode a cloud down to Egypt to show His wrath, the fact is that Isaiah 20 shows that God actually used the Assyrians to show His wrath against Egypt.

No, the fact is God said he will ride on a cloud and visit Egypt personally, physically...

Whatever is going on in chapter 20 is something else then...

Look at all the scripture you are rejecting along with rejecting God showing up physically...

Isa 19:5 And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up

Isa 19:17 And the land of Judah shall be a terror unto Egypt, every one that maketh mention thereof shall be afraid in himself, because of the counsel of the LORD of hosts, which he hath determined against it.

Isa 19:24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:
Isa 19:25 Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.

These things and many of the other things in this chapter have not taken place, yet...

There may be some history here, but there's a ton of prophecy as well...And it didn't take place in 70 AD...

I can't imagine how much of the scripture you have to reject to make some of it fit your theology...

And you compare scripture with scripture??? You don't have much scripture to compare...

776 posted on 11/12/2007 8:50:23 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

***Jesus says He’ll show up in a cloud...Maybe He’ll show up in a Lear Jet...***

Somehow, I had images of Benny Hinn getting out of his plane fashionably dressed for circa 30 A.D. sporting his Jerusalem shoes with the music to “How great thou art” blaring and waving his hands back and forth slaying everyone in sight.

Do you Dispensationalists think that the Holy Spirit was so casual with what he inspired? If that is the case, then you might as well discard your Bible. It could, after all, mean just about anything.


781 posted on 11/12/2007 8:58:56 AM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Iscool

“The Catholics do, but I’m not of that persuasion...”

First of all, you’re misrepresenting Catholicism too.

You take other metaphors literally. Why not that one? You don’t know why and that’s the problem.

You’ve made a lot of accusations that are unfounded, such as preterists don’t believe in scripture, which you know is pure nonsense.

So maybe you should patrol dispensationalist threads instead; I’m sure you’ll find some on FR.


793 posted on 11/12/2007 9:44:16 AM PST by tabsternager
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