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To: Dr. Eckleburg; ovrtaxt; wmfights; topcat54; 1000 silverlings; Lee N. Field; Alex Murphy

“I enjoy learning by looking at the results of a particular belief. A belief in dispensational dual tracks to salvation ultimately preaches a real futility of the Gospel”

What are the “dual tracks” of dispensational belief, I must have missed them? There is only one way and that through the finished work of Jesus. Because God deals with different people in different ways does not change the fact that all salvation is through faith in the finished work. From Adam to now God has always provided the Lamb, but he dealt with Adam different than with Noah, and Abraham different than Noah, and Jacob different than Abraham, and Moses different than Jacob, and Joshua different than Moses and the gibeonites different tha Israel and the Rachabites different than Israel and on and on. He even ministered to the Grecian converts different than the Jewish converts, yet always through Christ. So what is the big problem in understanding that God will once again deal with Israel according to his mercy and grace. Romans 11:25-29, ....”that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.”

All who have been chosen will come, “Some thro’ the waters, some thro’ the flood, Some thro’ the fire, but all thro’ the blood; Some thro’ great sorrow, but God gives a song,
In the night season and all the day long. ......
Sometimes in the valley, in darkest of night, God leads His dear children along. Though sorrows befall us and Satan oppose, God leads His dear children along;”

Hebrews 1:1-2, “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;” So why can’t he deal with Israel in sundry ways and divers manners? He dealt with the Jewish church in a differnt manner than he dealt with the Gentile church, yet all came through the blood of Jesus.

If God chooses to use the actual sacrifice of a lamb or a goat to point to the real sacrifice of Jesus or as a symbol of the Lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world, much like the symbols of wine and bread in order to connect with Irsrael’s liturgical past, why is that a problem? We have that symbol on banners and in pictures in the church to point to Jesus. We have crosses to remind us and focus on the finished work. What is the difference?

There is only one way, but he deals with us in differnt ways to point us to the one way.


721 posted on 11/11/2007 5:54:26 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

Being Biblical and Reasonable again.

Admirable.

. . .

Well said.


724 posted on 11/11/2007 6:10:46 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ovrtaxt; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; Lee N. Field; Alex Murphy
If God chooses to use the actual sacrifice of a lamb or a goat to point to the real sacrifice of Jesus or as a symbol of the Lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world, much like the symbols of wine and bread in order to connect with Irsrael’s liturgical past, why is that a problem?

Because the same book of Hebrews says that animal sacrifices have ended once for all. And wouldn’t you think the writer of Hebrews was familiar with Ezekiel 40-48? One would think that if future animals sacrifices were still a possibility that there would be some hint of it in Hebrews or somewhere else in the NT. But there is not. We see the opposite being taught quite forcefully. In fact you can search long and hard in the NT for any hint of all the futurists’ millennial imaginations and you will not find them.

Obviously the NT writers did not interpret the OT prophecies as the futurists do.

728 posted on 11/11/2007 8:18:22 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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