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To: topcat54; xzins; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Uncle Chip; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; Quix
Some date the Epistle of Barnabas between 70-131 A.D. Clement of Alexandria cited it as did Origen.

Please reread the entire chapter 15 quoted in my post. There are 7,000 years (7 days) appointed to Adamic man. The last 1,000 years (7th day) is the Sabbath.

After the 7th day or 7000 years is the 8th day – the new heaven and new earth - a time of not counting.

The belief appears again in chapter 33 of 2 Enoch (not to be confused with 1 Enoch) - which has been dated between the 1st century B.C. to the 10th century A.D. but most often, late 1st century A.D.

And I appointed the eighth day also, that the eighth day should be the first-created after my work, and that (the first seven) revolve in the form of the seventh thousand, and that at the beginning of the eighth thousand there should be a time of not-counting, endless, with neither years nor months nor weeks nor days nor hours.

If you wish to dismiss all of this as evidence of what many early Christians believed, that is your choice.

I do not.

710 posted on 11/11/2007 2:54:42 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Uncle Chip; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan
Some date the Epistle of Barnabas between 70-131 A.D. Clement of Alexandria cited it as did Origen.

Let’s review a bit more of the text:

Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, “He finished in six days.” This implieth that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifieth, saying, “Behold, to-day Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. “And He rested on the seventh day.” This meaneth: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man,
There is nothing in here which speaks of the "thousand years" of Rev. 20 as being the "Sabbath rest", the seventh thousands of years . In fact he explicitly denies this by the phrase "the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years". He is speaking of the second coming as the end of all things, and then begin the Sabbath rest, which is the new heavens and new earth.

The Lord is not resting during the futurist millennium. He fact, as I said, He is quite busy putting down authorities and offering animal sacrifices per Ezekiel 40-48.

If you wish to dismiss all of this as evidence of what many early Christians believed, that is your choice.

I’m afraid you have not offered any evidence, just your "musings" on what these folks may have been saying. The rest of the early church fathers do not seem to support your limited interpretations.

714 posted on 11/11/2007 4:44:31 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Uncle Chip; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan
The belief appears again in chapter 33 of 2 Enoch (not to be confused with 1 Enoch) -

If you are referring to the same book, 2 Enoch is not of Christian origin. It is certainly not written from the perspective as Jesus as the Messiah and fulfillment of the Old Testament prophets. It's usefulness to Christian scholarship is highly questionable.

716 posted on 11/11/2007 5:04:33 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Uncle Chip; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan
If you wish to dismiss all of this as evidence of what many early Christians believed, that is your choice. I do not.

I find this rather interesting statement given other things you have written, e.g.,

I’m a third party in this debate because I personally eschew all of the doctrines and traditions of men across the board, leaning instead on the revelations of God the Father in (1) Jesus Christ His only begotten Son, (2) the indwelling Holy Spirit, (3) Scriptures and (4) Creation both spiritual and physical. In other words, I am a Christian plain and simple.

What does "across the board" mean if you are using writings like Barnabas and 2 Enoch to support your "musings"? These are not Scripture. They are, in fact, "the doctrines and traditions of men" which you eschew.

Can you tell us how you really decide what is true?

718 posted on 11/11/2007 5:15:06 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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