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To: topcat54; tabsternager

tabsternager acknowledges that Eden is a separate period of time. To be fair with him, he did not agree with more than that. Do you agree with him?


67 posted on 11/01/2007 8:12:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True support of the troops means praying for US to WIN the war!)
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To: xzins; tabsternager
tabsternager acknowledges that Eden is a separate period of time. To be fair with him, he did not agree with more than that. Do you agree with him?

It was not a "separate period of time", since Adam lived before and after the fall.

The Westminster Confession distinguishes between the covenant of works that was operative before man’s fall and the covenant of grace after the fall. I agree with that distinction.

I also agree with the distinction, even "dispensation", of the old covenant and the new covenant, both being "dispensations" of the one covenant of grace.

In the future there will be eternity, the new heavens and new earth, where the righteous will dwell in their resurrection state.

Beyond that I do not admit to any useful, biblical distinctions in God’s salvation program.

71 posted on 11/01/2007 8:53:01 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: xzins; topcat54; Lord_Calvinus

Here’s an interesting quote I’m sure you’re familiar with:

“As a dispensation, GRACE BEGINS with the death and resurrection of Christ....THE POINT OF TESTING IS NO LONGER LEGAL OBEDIENCE AS THE CONDITION OF SALVATION, but acceptance or rejection of Christ, with good works as a fruit of salvation” — C.I. Scofield Scofield Reference Bible, p.1115

Do you agree with that quote? If you do, where in the Bible is there support for that belief (chapter and verse, please)?


73 posted on 11/01/2007 9:12:36 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: xzins; topcat54

“tabsternager acknowledges that Eden is a separate period of time.”

Maybe my answer wasn’t clear.

Again, I’m no scholar, but I think it was a unique time before the fall because man was without sin.

But since the fall, there has always been only one plan of salvation and one people of God, and it’s always been by faith alone.

I hope that’s clearer now.


76 posted on 11/01/2007 9:41:38 AM PDT by tabsternager
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