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To: Quix

Well, I’m a Dominion kind of guy, and you know my heart. Without being contentious, let me say a couple of things.

Personally, I see victory in the progress of the church- notably from the Reformation (on Oct. 31, calculating from the date of the 95 theses, we just completed a 490 year cycle, btw- 70x7 years...) on into the new season we’re in. As we continue to slough off the trappings of tradition and religion, and get more in tune with the ruling anointing of every believer being a priest/prophet/king, we see greater influence and leverage in society. Not necessarily as the institutional church, but rather as individuals walking in power among the halls of law, education, board rooms, extending even to back alleys and every place in between. (The key here is walking in the power of the Spirit.)

Even in China, as you personally know very well, the underground church exercises great authority- enough to drive the commies to fear them, thus the persecution.

The escapist, denial theology of the Madeline Murray O’Hare era is thankfully being rejected, as we embrace the revelation and responsibility of sonship and being a joint/heir. It’s a progressive revelation to be sure, but the strength of the former rain shall even be overshadowed by what is coming to us now.

Does it mean that every President throughout history will be a holy roller? No, but neither was Pharaoh during Joseph’s time. Yet YHWH had His way.

Now, I understand that it’s not all dancing through the daffodils, there will be lives, blood and treasure lost, but the Kingdom of God will advance into and overtake the kingdoms of this world. Christ in us, I believe, will accomplish this- as opposed to Christ personally after He physically comes back. I have to think like this, because anything less would be abdicating my commission from Him.

Anyway, I love you greatly. You seem to be one of the ones who actually does the Word (the rhema) as much as you proclaim it, which makes you a Kingdom builder anyway! :)


619 posted on 11/11/2007 3:37:39 AM PST by ovrtaxt (You're a destiny that God wrapped a body around.)
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To: ovrtaxt; Dr. Eckleburg; Uncle Chip; Iscool; DarthVader

Thanks for your kind words.

I believe that THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL TAKE IT BY FORCE . . . is true but something we have little understanding about yet. And that has to be coupled with THE WEAPONS OF OUR WARFARE ARE NOT CARNAL . . . but the bringing down of strongholds [in the spiritual realm] . . .

I believe that the righteous living through the Great Tribulation in the flexh will be few indeed but that someone must be around to repopulate the place . . . supernaturally protected by God . . . haven’t volunteered . . . besides . . . have no interest in reversing a vasectomy or even getting ‘into’ all that again.

I think there are mysteries abounding in the whole topic area of what God will be doing with a few righteous folks during the Great Trib vis a vis taking rightful closing ownership back of the planet as satan and forces are finally routed. But a LOT of blood and mayhem between now and then with a huge reduction in population.

yeah, you’re probably right about ‘plainly’ but good phrases communicating such are not overly plentiful.

Yes, the underground church exercises great authority.

But the trappings of religion and globalist state religion are INCREASING, not diminishing. The labels are changing to make the transition slicker. THE WORLD RULER WILL BE WORSHIPPED AS GOD.

Anyway—thanks tons for your thoughtful response and for your needed encouraging words and affirmations.

LUB, TOO.


627 posted on 11/11/2007 7:09:46 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ovrtaxt; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; topcat54; Lee N. Field; tabsternager; ...
Personally, I see victory in the progress of the church- notably from the Reformation (on Oct. 31, calculating from the date of the 95 theses, we just completed a 490 year cycle, btw- 70x7 years...) on into the new season we're in. As we continue to slough off the trappings of tradition and religion, and get more in tune with the ruling anointing of every believer being a priest/prophet/king, we see greater influence and leverage in society. Not necessarily as the institutional church, but rather as individuals walking in power among the halls of law, education, board rooms, extending even to back alleys and every place in between. (The key here is walking in the power of the Spirit.)

Even in China, as you personally know very well, the underground church exercises great authority- enough to drive the commies to fear them, thus the persecution.

The escapist, denial theology of the Madeline Murray O'Hare era is thankfully being rejected, as we embrace the revelation and responsibility of sonship and being a joint/heir. It's a progressive revelation to be sure, but the strength of the former rain shall even be overshadowed by what is coming to us now.

Does it mean that every President throughout history will be a holy roller? No, but neither was Pharaoh during Joseph's time. Yet YHWH had His way.

Now, I understand that it's not all dancing through the daffodils, there will be lives, blood and treasure lost, but the Kingdom of God will advance into and overtake the kingdoms of this world. Christ in us, I believe, will accomplish this- as opposed to Christ personally after He physically comes back. I have to think like this, because anything less would be abdicating my commission from Him.

AMEN!

Christians on earth are indwelled by the Holy Spirit and commanded to preach the word of God to all men, confident that whomever has been given ears to hear will prosper by it. It's simply a numbers game. One hundred Christians 2,000 years ago; one billion Christians today.

I've been mulling over how to answer our FRiend Quix's many adjectives (biting my tongue when words like "demonic" are tossed around since eschatology isn't science or even definitive history, but conjecture over the future.)

And you seem to have answered him admirably without resorting to questioning his salvation or impugning his obvious love for the word of God.

So I'll just join you in greeting Quix as a "Kingdom builder," whether he knows he is or not. 8~)

And I really like your tag.

As a very minor aside, I was reading an article in this month's "Vanity Fair" about Michelle Phillips (of the Mamas and the Papas) who certainly has plenty to "talk about in the locker room" (Maude from "Harold and Maude.") She's weathered turbulent times, drugs, divorces, fame, poverty, riches, and the bottom line of this long magazine story was that she is happily living now surrounded by friends and family and spends a lot of time regularly working in a soup kitchen.

Considering the '60's, this is no small accomplishment. But the surprising thing about this story came at the end, when she talked about her daughter Chynna Phillips (of the girl rock band, Wilson-Phillips) and her son-in-law, Billy Baldwin, who are both born-again Christians with three children! I knew one Baldwin brother was a well-known Christian (Stephen), but I had no idea another one was along with his wife, Chynna, daughter of Michelle and John Phillips.

And so this story made me happy. Not only is Michelle Phillips a gracious human being, but she's managed to raise a daughter who, in spite of her heroin-addicted father (John Phillips), became a productive and fervent Christian raising a family of Christians.

That's progress. And when we look for it, we will find it.

634 posted on 11/11/2007 9:11:03 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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