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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg; topcat54; Lee N. Field; Lord_Calvinus
Read the historical accounts of what happened in the Roman siege. The Temple was burnt down, no one set up any abomination in it.

Since you won't read the prophets, I'll give you a short summary, since your historical facts are lacking.

Hundreds of years before the temple burned down, and whether it was the first temple or the second one, the Israelites went astray, and set up abominations in their temple. They openly worshipped other gods, shorted God on the tithes, offered up lame and diseased animals. It got so bad that Malachi made this pronouncement against them.

Malachi 2:11

Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

2:12 The LORD will cut off the man that doeth this, the master and the scholar, out of the tabernacles of Jacob, and him that offereth an offering unto the LORD of hosts.

But before this, Jeremiah, Isaiah, etc. warned them as well.

First and foremost, the Jewish priests desecrated the altar, which is why Jesus cleansed it, not once but 2 times, at the beginning of his ministry and at the end of his ministry.

Not only that but you have overlooked the other conquerors of Jerusalem, most notably the Seleucids, and the worst sort of antiChrist Antiochus IV who appointed the high priests who "set up" a system totally alien to Jewish law, and which was still in effect in Jesus day, which is why he said

"It is written: 'My house shall be a house of prayer,' but you are making it a den of thieves." Matthew 21:13

And this was "written" back in Jeremiah's day

Jeremiah 7:9

Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

7:10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?

7:11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.

Then of course you get the Hasmoneans whose reign culminated in the Herods, Idumeans(Edomite, son of Esau) as Kings of the Jews.

Finally, we have the advent of Christ and when He left, the last vestiges of God is gone from their temples and they are left desolate. The only temple that will ever be rebuilt by God is the invisible one made not by human hands and so the prophecy is fulfilled that Malachi 3:1

Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

553 posted on 11/09/2007 10:45:20 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Quix; fortheDeclaration; topcat54; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights
According to Preterists the following was fulfilled in 70 AD:

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." [Mt 24:29-31]

So then this "coming in the clouds with power and great glory" took place in 70 AD??? How come no one saw it or reported on it??? where did He go after this and what did He do with all the elect??? or did it just take place in the imaginations of the preterists???

And there are sola scripturists who would rather believe this fantasy than believe that that event is still yet future??? Get real --

557 posted on 11/10/2007 4:23:54 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg; topcat54; Lee N. Field; Lord_Calvinus
The only temple that will ever be rebuilt by God is the invisible one made not by human hands and so the prophecy is fulfilled that Malachi 3:1.

In the postmil. and amil. thought when did the 1,000 yr reign occur?

570 posted on 11/10/2007 10:48:06 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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