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To: blue-duncan; Alex Murphy
the trend in each of the following is downward

Now you're really thinking like Gore. If the world at this minute is a little more secular than it was 20 minutes ago, should we all give up and assume 20 minutes from now it will be more secular?

ESPECIALLY given the long view which Al Gore and most dispensationalists seem incapable of taking.

Compare those categories to 2,000 years ago. To 1,000 years ago.

What is the actual downside to believing the Gospel and Christianity can change the world for the better?

539 posted on 11/09/2007 1:32:07 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy

“should we all give up and assume 20 minutes from now it will be more secular?”

Why do you assume that since the trend of the world is downward it should be a cause of pessimism? God already told us it would happen but He also said look up your redemption is at hand. He said (John 9:4)”I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.” and so must we inspite of what is going on around us.

He tells us we will have trials and tribulations here but to be of good cheer since He has already overcome them, but we still labor. It is alright to be realistic about the downward direction, however we are confident of the final victory and are engaged in doing our Father’s work now.

Jhn 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.


541 posted on 11/09/2007 2:05:23 PM PST by blue-duncan
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