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To: blue-duncan; Alex Murphy
Everything you posted is true. Election is the cornerstone of all reality. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ according to God's predestining election alone, and not by men's good choice to believe.

Belief is a result of election; not a requirement for it.

And how did God ordain that men would believe?

By the preaching of the Gospel.

And what occurs when men are transformed by the word of God?

All good things.

So since we agree on the method, we're just arguing numbers. Christianity is not a men's club. It is the operating principal of all existence, and as the Gospel is preached, more and more men will know that, by the grace of God, and be converted to Christ.

How do we know this?

At the time of Christ there were dozens of Christians. Today there are over one billion Christians.

Doesn't that look like a God-breathed exponential trend to you?

520 posted on 11/09/2007 11:58:53 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy

“Doesn’t that look like a God-breathed exponential trend to you?”

Let’s see: many-few, many-few, many-few. Now, if we look at this exponentially, assuming that the many don’t all abort the unborn, it looks like the formula holds along with those who were “moths” to the light and fall away towards the latter days. There is no dismay or defeated attitude as we see things winding down but an expectancy and an urgency to be about our Father’s business as Jesus is coming to take His own. Fortunately for us the harvest is His responsibility and our report sheet will only list those we have witnessed to; not those who are in the Lamb’s Book of Life.


523 posted on 11/09/2007 12:12:10 PM PST by blue-duncan
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