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To: topcat54
That view is not unique to Spurgeon. There were many churchmen throughout the centuries, but especially in the last two or three among the Puritans for example, who believe that God would reestablish the Jewish people in the land after they turned to Jesus as Messiah in faith. The key here is after they believed.

Well they were partially right, right??? Because the Jewish people have already returned to the land of Israel -- "before" [not "after"] turning to Jesus as their Messiah, right???

And why would they return to the land of Israel at all??? Ahhh -- it was and is the Land of the Abrahamic Promise.

447 posted on 11/09/2007 7:05:20 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; P-Marlowe; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; tabsternager; Lee N. Field
Because the Jewish people have already returned to the land of Israel --

This is not what those churchmen had in view since the restorations of Israel found in the Bible are all following repentance and a renewal of the covenant in faith.

A secular/political decree in 1948 does not match the criteria that true biblical scholars are interested in.

And why would they return to the land of Israel at all??? Ahhh -- it was and is the Land of the Abrahamic Promise.

Abraham was promised the entire world (Roman 4:13). I’m not saying I accept the interpretation of these churchmen, I was merely pointing out that a restoration view was not limited to dispensationalism, or holding such a view makes one a dispensationalist. Be reminded that the Puritan view does not share the radical features of dispensationalism, e.g., restoration of Israel while yet in unbelief with no end in sight.

455 posted on 11/09/2007 7:23:47 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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To: Uncle Chip; topcat54
the Jewish people have already returned to the land of Israel --

Ever hear of the Torah Jews? They don't believe in Zionism and are waiting patiently on the Lord.

470 posted on 11/09/2007 9:04:28 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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