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To: xzins; topcat54

I believe you said you’ve never read anything by Scofield before. Yet you seem to accept that “Scofield clearly believed that salvation has always been by grace through faith.”

BTW, faith in what? If it’s faith in Christ, then we have no disagreement.

I suggest you re-read the note from Scofield himself and then google “dispensationalism” and “historic premillennialism” and see for yourself the very significant differences between them. You can find them on Web sites such as Theopedia.

While you’re looking them up, see for yourself when (and by whom) dispensationalism began.


177 posted on 11/05/2007 3:09:43 PM PST by tabsternager
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To: tabsternager
What I said was: according to Ryrie, Schofield clearly believed that salvation has always been by grace through faith.

Now, since I clearly cite Ryrie, then my earlier statment that I'm not a Scofield scholar is put in proper context.

Ryrie is (was?) far more a scholar than this entire thread put together.

I'd say that I'm fairly comfortable with dispensationalism as an idea.

Even you admit to UPTs, which are just another name for dispensations.

Now, back to my next question which I posed in the last post. Was there anything AT ALL different in the relationship between God & mankind in the Garden UPT than now entails?

178 posted on 11/05/2007 3:27:27 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True support of the troops means praying for US to WIN the war!)
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To: tabsternager; xzins
BTW, faith in what? If it’s faith in Christ, then we have no disagreement.

What do you mean by Faith in Christ?

Peter didn't even want Christ to go the Cross,(Mat.16:22) so he was not saved by believing in the Blood atonement (Rom.3:25) as we are.

None of the Apostles were since they did not believe Christ was going to raise from the dead that is why they all fled.

Yet, among the 12 only Judas was unsaved.

186 posted on 11/05/2007 4:18:29 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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