“What does Matthew 24:30 say in every translation?”
My understanding is the Greek word “ge” can either mean “earth,” “country,” or “land.” Since Matthew is speaking of “tribes” and taken in context of both Zechariah 12 and Revelation 1:7, it therefore means Israel.
“It also states that the Jews would see Christ whom they pierced and mourn that they had rejected Him.
That didn’t happen.”
Oh, yes, it did. All the tribes mourned over the judgment that had come to them, and they knew that Jesus is the Christ.
Matthew 23:37-39 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”
Much as dispensationalists would like to wrench the above last sentence from the rest, it is clear what Jesus was referring to and the last verse implies acknowledgement.
“And what you have to realize is that you can’t ignore what the passage says to make it fit into your own theology.”
The only ones on this thread trying to make scripture fit into their own theology are dispensationalists. You gave several good examples, such as cherry picking Matthew 24:30 and ignoring both the rest of Matthew 24, Christ’s words to Caiaphas, and Zechariah 12.
That may be a good way to reinforce your own fantasy about the future but a bad way to find the truth.
Matthew 23:37-39 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”
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So, the Contrarian Preterist; Replacementarian; Alice-in-Wonderland School of Rubber Theology
has the brazen audacity to foist on a snickering public that the above Scripture already happened in what 70AD???
GTTM
GTTM ROTFLOL
LOL TO THE MAX
Mind Boggling.
No wonder atheism is advancing so rapidly. Amazing rubber logic.
I’ve heard of grasping at straws but this is grasping at fog.
There we go!!!
Your understanding.
Even your own NIV translates that word as earth yet you will reject any translation to cling to your false theology.
No translation translated the word as 'land' and every translation, NIV included, has either tribes of the earth(NASB,KJV,NKJ) peoples(NCV) or nations(NIV) not Israel.
So, as Quix has noted, you don't have a bible, you have a book of suggestions.
Rev.1:7 it states that every eye shall see him and all kindreds of the earth,(KJV), all the tribes of the earth (NASB), all the peoples of the earth (NIV), all the peoples of the earth(NCV), people of all nations (The Message), and all of the nations of the earth (NLT).
What you need to do is make a preterist translation and just change those verses, just like the JW's did to defend their own non-biblical theology.
Christ was not speaking to that generation, he was speaking about the generation mentioned in Zech.12:10, you know the one that weeps when it sees him, as does the rest of the 'kindreds of the earth'-which didn't happen in 70AD.
So, there is not 'cherry picking' going on, there is simply ignoring what the scripture clearly says by the preterists.
Zech. 13:9-
God seeks to destroy all of the nations that come to destroy Jerusalem, not just Rome.
See Rev.16:14-16 for details.