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To: fortheDeclaration; Iscool; Uncle Chip

“By the way, the NIV translation also has earth, not land.”

By the way, once again, the NIV translation of Zechariah has “land,” not “earth”:

Zechariah 12:10-12: “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be great, like the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives...”

Matthew 24:30: “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.”

Revelation 1:7: Look, he is coming with the clouds,
and every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.

Do you or do you not see the similarities among the above passages?

And, again, compare those with the fact that Jesus told Caiaphus he would see the Son of Man coming in the clouds:

Mark 14:62: “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

As much as one may like to ignore the fact that they all fit together, one can’t if what they really want is the truth above all else.


1,743 posted on 11/24/2007 11:19:22 AM PST by tabsternager
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To: tabsternager; Quix
[“By the way, the NIV translation also has earth, not land.”]

By the way, once again, the NIV translation of Zechariah has “land,” not “earth”:

What does Matthew 24:30 say in every translation?

Zechariah 12:10-12: “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be great, like the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives...”

It also states that the Jews would see Christ whom they pierced and mourn that they had rejected Him.

That didn't happen.

[ Matthew 24:30: “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.” Revelation 1:7: Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. ]

Do you or do you not see the similarities among the above passages?

What I see in those passages is Christ being seen by the entire world which didn't happen.

A 5th grader could read that and point that out.

And, again, compare those with the fact that Jesus told Caiaphus he would see the Son of Man coming in the clouds: Mark 14:62: “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” As much as one may like to ignore the fact that they all fit together, one can’t if what they really want is the truth above all else.

And what you have to realize is that you can't ignore what the passage says to make it fit into your own theology.

The world did not see Christ on 70AD.

The Jews did not convert in 70AD.

God did not destroy the nations (note the plural) going against Jerusalem (Zech.13:9) And when Christ comes back He is coming the way He left, standing not sitting (Acts.1:9).

Caiphaius will see Christ sitting on the right hand of power, when he faces Christ at the judgment seat.

The obstacle that the preterists face is not the Scofield notes, it is the clear readings found in the Bible.

You simply ignore whatever scripture says that goes against what your false theological system teaches you.

1,748 posted on 11/25/2007 4:40:51 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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