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To: Quix
The problem I see with the anti-dispensationalist crowd here on FR is that they don't simply think dispensationalism is wrong, they think that it (along with all those who believe in it) is EVIL.

They tend to refuse to confront the fact that they just may be wrong. For them to be wrong, or to even take it under consideration, is to somehow join the dark side.

I could care less whether or not people are stupid enough to believe in preterism (full or partial). It makes no biblical sense whatsoever and makes Jesus out to be a liar. But their modus operandi is to question our integrity and accuse us of being dishonest in our firmly held beliefs. They somehow think that dispensationalism is on a par with satan worship and not only must be challenged by must be destroyed and driven from the church.

Well, it ain't going anywhere. I find the dispensationalist model to be the only truly consistent interpretive model for eschatology. I'm sure there are enough of us to keep the preterists from throwing us all into the bottomless pit.

Happy Thanksgiving Quix.

May God truly bless you.

Marlowe

1,633 posted on 11/21/2007 7:30:16 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

THANKS.

THE BEST OF THANKSGIVING DAY TO YOU AND ALL YOU LOVE.

May your relationships all deepen in their walk with The Lord and with each other in His Love and Intimacy.

= = =

I think you are essentially right. Though I’m sure they would likely say ditto from their perspective regardng ours.

I still say . . . program a computer fairly and feed it the Scriptural and historical statements of fact . . . I have no doubt what the computer would assert as the MOST Biblical and MOST logical and MOST historically accurate.

But there’s something more than human irrationality going on, imho. And it IS evil. The deceiver of man is at work wholesale in that perspective.

And, as is often the case, his tools are dead religion; dead philosophies; dead GOD IN POWER AND MIGHT etc. etc. etc. The intellectualizations are hollow—devoid of Holy Spirit’s power, might, clarity, wisdom, Scriptural congruence. And they cannot see it. Some will not see it. But there is a startling amount of CANNOT see it, imho.

To me, there’s only one reason for CANNOT—demonic forces successfully seducing and deceiving.

Of course, those forces are usually behind the WILL NOT SEE as well.


1,635 posted on 11/21/2007 7:38:05 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: P-Marlowe
The problem I see with the anti-Y-ist crowd here on FR is that they don't simply think Y-ism is wrong, they think that it (along with all those who believe in it) is EVIL.

They tend to refuse to confront the fact that they just may be wrong. For them to be wrong, or to even take it under consideration, is to somehow join the dark side.

I could care less whether or not people are stupid enough to believe in X-ism. It makes no biblical sense whatsoever and makes Jesus out to be a liar. But their modus operandi is to question our integrity and accuse us of being dishonest in our firmly held beliefs. They somehow think that Y-ism is on a par with satan worship and not only must be challenged by must be destroyed and driven from the church.

Well, it ain't going anywhere. I find the Y-ist model to be the only truly consistent interpretive model for eschatology. I'm sure there are enough of us to keep the X-ists from throwing us all into the bottomless pit.

Hold up a mirror. Everything you've said applies as well to your side. You-all seem to be holding the same views about us as you accuse us of having about you. Replace the variables as you see fit.

1,640 posted on 11/21/2007 8:58:33 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("Is not the day of the LORD darkness, and not light, and gloom with no brightness in it?")
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To: P-Marlowe; Quix; fortheDeclaration; Blogger
...they don't simply think dispensationalism is wrong, they think that it (along with all those who believe in it) is EVIL.

If dispensationalism is a way of looking at history broken into varying periods I don't see how anyone can get bent out of shape. However, if it is a belief that during these different periods different criteria for salvation were applied, I do see the threat. If the latter is the case, what stops the anti-christ from convincing people a new dispensation has begun and in it salvation is found in a new world religion where we worship the beast (we just don't realize it's the beast).

Please don't assume I'm a postmill, amill, preterist. I'm not. I believe we are in the premil period and God is not done with the Jews and Israel.

1,660 posted on 11/22/2007 7:14:22 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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